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(15-Jan-2017, 17:32)Hifi_swlon Wrote: [ -> ]
(15-Jan-2017, 17:31)Dr Tone Wrote: [ -> ]
(15-Jan-2017, 17:28)Hifi_swlon Wrote: [ -> ]Still, if I get the Explorer I can find out for myself.  Except now I'm conflicted about adding an MQA hardware sale to the stats....

I'll go out on a limb and say that software decoded MQA fed to the Devialet will sound better than putting the Explorer 2 in front of the Devialet.  Call me crazy!

It's not for that!  Big Grin
It's for headphones / Tidal while working.....

I have a dragon fly red but simply can't listen to headphones without cross-feed.  I get a head ache and my brain can't deal with the hard panning in some of the music I listen to, so the new firmware would only be used for quick comparisons. I have an Ayre Codex on the way for serious headphone listening anyway.
Bit ot but I had the black. Just couldn't get enough fine control on the volume. Both my headphones are sensitive. At 129 in the sale I was hoping the explorer would be better, and at least a relative bargain.
This topic on CA is really interesting for the technically minded.....

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f8-gen...ots-31199/

(Ok just got to the end to see essentially 'apology, data posted is wrong, will post new data soon')
As usual, Archimago has some objective experimental data on this: http://archimago.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/...-high.html (not that I'm really following it, just an interesting read from my point of view...).
(15-Jan-2017, 13:04)Confused Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not sure what forums Womaz is reading, but World War 3 has broken out over MQA over at 'Computer Audiophile'.  It's fair to say it's controversial!
You're not wrong! I just read / glanced at 10 pages, from page three (MQA on Tidal introduced) to page thirteen. There's only one guy who says it sounds great. All the others are discussing DRM, lossy format and other technical stuff. Not even one person says he listened to it and thinks it sounds bad. Nothing about the sound quality  Huh
Do the good people on Computer Audiophile actually listen to music or are they too busy looking at their monitors to make sure they're getting all their ones and zeros in order?
I'm stuck in the Australian desert for a few more days. That's why I set up the 'how do you find the SQ of Tidal MQA' poll. I'm interested in how it sounds. I can understand discussing how to get it to work / work better or whether it's worth the money but after all is said and done, your ears will be the best judge on whether to keep it or give it a pass. 
I'm looking forward to Wednesday when I can finally have a listen myself. Plug my new toy (3R USB) in and try two new things. I might just try them both at once and if it sounds good, not even worry about where the improvement comes from. Just enjoy the music. Sounds like a great plan.
I (and I'm sure many others) agree with you Pim - the thing is, some quite bold claims are being made about this format and - depending on who you believe - may or may not be true. It seems at least there's a lot of confusion/truth stretching perhaps. Already 'Master' authenticated files have been shown to be up-sampled redbook.

I guess its two-prong. One is listening to the fully decoded files (and not many people are in a position to do that) and see if they sound better, but also to ascertain if its delivering what it says it is - after all they are downloads predominantly now but may conceivably start being sold in place of other high-res formats in the future if it takes off. I'm glad there are people looking into it TBH - the music industry isn't exactly that trustworthy.

There are a few people on Roon's forums in the multitude of MQA topics there saying that MQA sounds great. But also a lot of loyal Roon users have an affinity with Meridian from the Sooloos days, so not 100% unbiased I'd say.
I had a listen to the Tidal MQA files - very impressive.  However, it is difficult to make proper comparisons (at least in the Classical music genre) due to the very few albums available in the format and the obscurity of the performers -  I came across one old Karajan recording which I did not like at all.

The real test will be to listen to a modern recording, by first class performers and in the different hi def formats.

On another point however, is that I had absolutely no problems in streaming these files with my relatives poor ADSL broadband connection, which sometimes struggles with streaming CD quality albums.
Did someone mention music?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...1968149103

This was posted elsewhere, a list of MQA material found on Tidal. I was not optimistic regarding finding much I'd actually want to listen to. However, my pessimism was misplaced, there is definitely enough here to tempt me. One or two of my very favourite albums in fact. So when the time is right, I'm in!
(16-Jan-2017, 22:37)Confused Wrote: [ -> ]Did someone mention music?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...1968149103

This was posted elsewhere, a list of MQA material found on Tidal.  I was not optimistic regarding finding much I'd actually want to listen to.  However, my pessimism was misplaced, there is definitely enough here to tempt me.  One or two of my very favourite albums in fact.  So when the time is right, I'm in!

First thing I'll be playing when I get home; Van Halen, women and children first. Big Grin
(16-Jan-2017, 23:06)Pim van Vliet Wrote: [ -> ]
(16-Jan-2017, 22:37)Confused Wrote: [ -> ]Did someone mention music?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...1968149103

This was posted elsewhere, a list of MQA material found on Tidal.  I was not optimistic regarding finding much I'd actually want to listen to.  However, my pessimism was misplaced, there is definitely enough here to tempt me.  One or two of my very favourite albums in fact.  So when the time is right, I'm in!

First thing I'll be playing when I get home; Van Halen, women and children first. Big Grin

I've got the flat transfer 24/192 and the 2015 remaster 24/192 of it.  Through Roon both sound fuller and warmer than the unprocessed MQA file.  It will be interesting to compare software decoding eventually on these.

It based off the 2015 remaster in case you were wondering.
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