(13-Nov-2015, 13:35)ondastar Wrote:

(13-Nov-2015, 11:58)Johnnydev Wrote: Hi ondastar,

Good idee so, i wil give my flawlesly working wireless system in a new replay, but for now i have a question for you

You have a Dialogue and 3 Silver Phantoms and the P Remote all located in my music room. The Phantoms are set up as L&R channels and center Mix.

I have at this moment 2 x sliver phantoms and a remote and want to buy a third silver phantom as a center speaker.

Can you please explain how this functions in a stereo with center phantom?

The Spark app sets the Dialog to configure the Center as a "mix" of the stereo L&R channel audio signals. In effect the "mix" is a mono center channel.
The acoustic performance is excellent in creating an ambient spatial feeling.

(13-Nov-2015, 14:38)Johnnydev Wrote:

(13-Nov-2015, 13:35)ondastar Wrote:

(13-Nov-2015, 11:58)Johnnydev Wrote: Hi ondastar,

Good idee so, i wil give my flawlesly working wireless system in a new replay, but for now i have a question for you

You have a Dialogue and 3 Silver Phantoms and the P Remote all located in my music room. The Phantoms are set up as L&R channels and center Mix.

I have at this moment 2 x sliver phantoms and a remote and want to buy a third silver phantom as a center speaker.

Can you please explain how this functions in a stereo with center phantom?

The Spark app sets the Dialog to configure the Center as a "mix" of the stereo L&R channel audio signals. In effect the "mix" is a mono center channel.
The acoustic performance is excellent in creating an ambient spatial feeling.

Oke thanks, but serving you with the devialet remote the volume all three at once?

And do you listen by stereo streaming of cd's also with all the three phantoms at once?

(13-Nov-2015, 16:51)ondastar Wrote:

(13-Nov-2015, 14:38)Johnnydev Wrote:

(13-Nov-2015, 13:35)ondastar Wrote: The Spark app sets the Dialog to configure the Center as a "mix" of the stereo L&R channel audio signals. In effect the "mix" is a mono center channel.
The acoustic performance is excellent in creating an ambient spatial feeling.

Oke thanks, but serving you with the devialet remote the volume all three at once?

And do you listen by stereo streaming of cd's also with all the three phantoms at once?

The Devialet remote controls the volume for the 3 phantoms simultaneously. It performs very well. 

Yes, the optical in stereo sources (CD,DVD,NAS,ROON etc), and the streaming (TIDAL etc) stereo signals are separated by the Dialog and  the L&R channel information is sent to the L&R Phantoms and blends the L&R for the "mix" center Phantom. Acoustically excellent triangle.

(13-Nov-2015, 18:23)Johnnydev Wrote:

(13-Nov-2015, 16:51)ondastar Wrote:

(13-Nov-2015, 14:38)Johnnydev Wrote: Oke thanks, but serving you with the devialet remote the volume all three at once?

And do you listen by stereo streaming of cd's also with all the three phantoms at once?

The Devialet remote controls the volume for the 3 phantoms simultaneously. It performs very well. 

Yes, the optical in stereo sources (CD,DVD,NAS,ROON etc), and the streaming (TIDAL etc) stereo signals are separated by the Dialog and  the L&R channel information is sent to the L&R Phantoms and blends the L&R for the "mix" center Phantom. Acoustically excellent triangle.

WoW Thats fine when it's function that way, then i think i order the third one !

(13-Nov-2015, 18:50)Johnnydev Wrote:

(13-Nov-2015, 18:23)Johnnydev Wrote:

(13-Nov-2015, 16:51)ondastar Wrote: The Devialet remote controls the volume for the 3 phantoms simultaneously. It performs very well. 

Yes, the optical in stereo sources (CD,DVD,NAS,ROON etc), and the streaming (TIDAL etc) stereo signals are separated by the Dialog and  the L&R channel information is sent to the L&R Phantoms and blends the L&R for the "mix" center Phantom. Acoustically excellent triangle.

WoW Thats fine when it's function that way, then i think i order the third one !

Hi ondastar, before i order. 

plaese can you explaine the difference in sound by streaming or playing cd with the stereo set up or with the stereo set up including the center speaker (all 3 at the same time)?

(13-Nov-2015, 22:38)ondastar Wrote:

(13-Nov-2015, 18:50)Johnnydev Wrote:

(13-Nov-2015, 18:23)Johnnydev Wrote: WoW Thats fine when it's function that way, then i think i order the third one !

Hi ondastar, before i order. 

plaese can you explaine the difference in sound by streaming or playing cd with the stereo set up or with the stereo set up including the center speaker (all 3 at the same time)?

I started with 2 Silver Phantoms in a typical L&R stereo configuration and did a lot of placement variation and frequency analysis to achieve the best (to my ears) acoustic experience using a variety of my favorite recordings... Sonically, the digital source material whether CD or streamed is highly variable based on the SQ chain of the studio, artist, engineer, production format and delivery bitstream integrity. 

My music room dimensions are based on Golden Ratio Trapagon engineering (see George Cardas excellent website for details) and has high cubic volume with lots of breathing room for the full power of the Phantoms, so I ordered the 3rd Silver Phantom and then went through another cycle of placement variation and measurements. 

Using the 3rd Phantom as a "mix" in my current configuration creates the effect of 3 dimensionality and airiness that is breathtaking, and with the most exquisite delicacy in clarity of voices and instruments in space.... all from a 3 speaker system. 

My principle audio gear is Wilson/Levinson and in it's 2.1 or 7.1 configuration (for stereo) it is only minimally better than my Phantom 2.1 configuration ... at a cost 20 times the Devialet set up.

Your mileage may vary, but you have lot's to work with in a 2.1 Phantom configuration in placement variation and listening analysis to get yourself a superior musical experience.

(13-Nov-2015, 23:14)Johnnydev Wrote:

(13-Nov-2015, 22:38)ondastar Wrote:

(13-Nov-2015, 18:50)Johnnydev Wrote: Hi ondastar, before i order. 

plaese can you explaine the difference in sound by streaming or playing cd with the stereo set up or with the stereo set up including the center speaker (all 3 at the same time)?

I started with 2 Silver Phantoms in a typical L&R stereo configuration and did a lot of placement variation and frequency analysis to achieve the best (to my ears) acoustic experience using a variety of my favorite recordings... Sonically, the digital source material whether CD or streamed is highly variable based on the SQ chain of the studio, artist, engineer, production format and delivery bitstream integrity. 

My music room dimensions are based on Golden Ratio Trapagon engineering (see George Cardas excellent website for details) and has high cubic volume with lots of breathing room for the full power of the Phantoms, so I ordered the 3rd Silver Phantom and then went through another cycle of placement variation and measurements. 

Using the 3rd Phantom as a "mix" in my current configuration creates the effect of 3 dimensionality and airiness that is breathtaking, and with the most exquisite delicacy in clarity of voices and instruments in space.... all from a 3 speaker system. 

My principle audio gear is Wilson/Levinson and in it's 2.1 or 7.1 configuration (for stereo) it is only minimally better than my Phantom 2.1 configuration ... at a cost 20 times the Devialet set up.

Your mileage may vary, but you have lot's to work with in a 2.1 Phantom configuration in placement variation and listening analysis to get yourself a superior musical experience.

Thank you, Thats very interesting 

(18-Nov-2015, 04:44)ondastar Wrote:

(13-Nov-2015, 23:14)Johnnydev Wrote:

(13-Nov-2015, 22:38)ondastar Wrote: I started with 2 Silver Phantoms in a typical L&R stereo configuration and did a lot of placement variation and frequency analysis to achieve the best (to my ears) acoustic experience using a variety of my favorite recordings... Sonically, the digital source material whether CD or streamed is highly variable based on the SQ chain of the studio, artist, engineer, production format and delivery bitstream integrity. 

My music room dimensions are based on Golden Ratio Trapagon engineering (see George Cardas excellent website for details) and has high cubic volume with lots of breathing room for the full power of the Phantoms, so I ordered the 3rd Silver Phantom and then went through another cycle of placement variation and measurements. 

Using the 3rd Phantom as a "mix" in my current configuration creates the effect of 3 dimensionality and airiness that is breathtaking, and with the most exquisite delicacy in clarity of voices and instruments in space.... all from a 3 speaker system. 

My principle audio gear is Wilson/Levinson and in it's 2.1 or 7.1 configuration (for stereo) it is only minimally better than my Phantom 2.1 configuration ... at a cost 20 times the Devialet set up.

Your mileage may vary, but you have lot's to work with in a 2.1 Phantom configuration in placement variation and listening analysis to get yourself a superior musical experience.

Thank you, Thats very interesting 

Hi J.... Couldn't wait... Did you get a 3rd, and if so  how is it doing?