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RE: Firmware 8.0 - Sylvain27 - 20-May-2015 (20-May-2015, 05:58)Saint0 Wrote:Well, I am quite surprised. On the video, the tune played is track 4 of this album http://www.qobuz.com/fr-fr/album/jacques-loussier-trio-the-best-of-play-bach-jacques-loussier-trio/4892843002596?qref=dac_7 (Gavotte in D major). I just tried at -20 dB the beginning of the track, SAM ON/OFF is obvious, the woofers move much more with SAM ON (100%) and if I reduce SAM %, movements of the woofer are smaller (subsonic filter OFF, I did no try with ON). I know that there is a big woofer on the Scala and 2 smaller woofers on the Diva, but B&W 802D has a big woofer too. I remember that someone who have a pair of Focal Diablo (one of the first speaker SAMed by Devialet) noticed these big movements too. What source are you using?(19-May-2015, 16:23)Sylvain27 Wrote:(19-May-2015, 09:51)Saint0 Wrote:Hello, I have older Focal Utopia speakers, a pair of Diva. Devialet borrowed my own pair to be SAMed, so I hope the correction is the right one! I have a similar experience, SAM does not change completely the bass, and I think it's because we have speakers with already a good bass response without SAM. However if you look at the boomers while playing double bass for instance, SAM correction can be seen immediately at times, movements of the speakers' membrane have a much larger amplitude with SAM.(19-May-2015, 09:28)Saint0 Wrote:(18-May-2015, 12:13)G51 Wrote: Hello, Saint0. Jeff Fritz, Editor of Soundstage.com, once evaluated the expert line (of course not V8.0.0) and said it was dead silent even in his sound-treated listening room. So what comes the problem of the low frequency heart-beat-like rumble and the sudden outburst of very loud noise we heard? Electrical interference from our home electricity network? The later firmware? Or any other factors? Saint0 did you plug the Expert line direct to wall socket or use a power conditioner? RE: Firmware 8.0 - Vivialet - 20-May-2015 if the lowest bass frequency is moved down it is to expect that you get larger bass excursions. With test tones I can also hear the limiter on my Giya G2, but with music it is normally not noticable. And with SAM on it sounds better in my system. I have turned DPM off as I like the sound more. Maybe those who complain about 8 have it enabled which is the default. I think with DPM off it is about the same SQ as with 7.1.3 beta. RE: Firmware 8.0 - hk6230 - 20-May-2015 (20-May-2015, 06:59)completeluxury Wrote: wouldnt adjusting the max wattage simply mean your speakers cant go as loud? Yeah, you're probably right. I'm not very good with electrical principals, too. In fact, very poor in physics. RE: Firmware 8.0 - completeluxury - 20-May-2015 (20-May-2015, 09:44)hk6230 Wrote:(20-May-2015, 06:59)completeluxury Wrote: wouldnt adjusting the max wattage simply mean your speakers cant go as loud? trust me im right there with you when it comes to general physics. but my basic electrical principles.. well if i didnt know the Power triangle id be a very bad electrician RE: Firmware 8.0 - Hifi_swlon - 20-May-2015 (20-May-2015, 09:11)Vivialet Wrote: if the lowest bass frequency is moved down it is to expect that you get larger bass excursions. With test tones I can also hear the limiter on my Giya G2, but with music it is normally not noticable. And with SAM on it sounds better in my system. I have turned DPM off as I like the sound more. Maybe those who complain about 8 have it enabled which is the default. Interesting. I left DPM on - mainly because I didn't know it existed - but turned subsonic off. I might try again at the weekend with it turned off. RE: Firmware 8.0 - Deviant - 20-May-2015 Hi, Just rolled back to 7.1.1 via 7.1.3 - an instant improvement!! 8.0 to me sounds like an old CD player from the 80's Bright / Harsh / Digital! 7.1.1 Smooth / Warm / Class A. The new features don't justify the degradation in sound. Just my 2d worth. RE: Firmware 8.0 - Hifi_swlon - 20-May-2015 (20-May-2015, 11:14)Deviant Wrote: Hi, Just rolled back to 7.1.1 via 7.1.3 - an instant improvement!! 8.0 to me sounds like an old CD player from the 80's Bright / Harsh / Digital! 7.1.1 Smooth / Warm / Class A. The new features don't justify the degradation in sound. Just my 2d worth. Deviant, did you try v8 with DPM ON (default) or OFF? If ON then we both have very preference in firmware, yet totally different kit (except the D200). Is your room in any way bright or on the brighter side? I only ask as mine is, and I wonder how much this plays a part. Of course, it could be purely the firmware but I was just curious. Hopefully you have some saved configs for v 7.1.1…. I'm going to email Devialet support and ask about the backwards compatibility as it really worries me, it kind of reduces my amps configurability to zero at this point. RE: Firmware 8.0 - GuillaumeB - 20-May-2015 More critical listening... I am now sure I prefer DPM off. 8.0 is very similar to 7.1.3, overall it's a big improvement on 7.1.1 in my setup. I still think I prefer 7.1.3 but I can easily live with 8.0 Once again I'm finding DSD sounds especially good but I need to get my hands on a bit more material, shame it's so expensive... go figure! Given that MAT converts DSD to 40bit/384kHZ PCM, surely DXD can't be too far away? Guillaume RE: Firmware 8.0 - Vivialet - 20-May-2015 Hey Guillaume, at least we both share the same opinion about 8.0 and DPM. I can also live with it if DPM is off. I bought one DSD from highresaudio (David Munyon) and it really sound good. Bad thing is that I always have to reconfigure jRiver as I normally use AIR and for DSD I need to switch to USB... Need to check if AIR is still better than USB with 8.0. RE: Firmware 8.0 - Deviant - 20-May-2015 (20-May-2015, 11:40)Hifi_swlon Wrote: Hifi_swlon, yes tried with and without DPM. Room is not bright carpeted / large sofas / curtains thows etc. The wilson Benesch speakers are very fast and revealing - if a source is bright and harsh they will reveal it! - one of the reasons I've been looking at changing them for some time, - the devialet was their saviour. |