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RE: does anyone use subwoofers in their setup? - thumb5 - 18-Jun-2015 Muski, you beat me to the punch - I was about to write exactly the same question. I don't recall seeing any mechanism (in the Devialet) to add a delay to the main speaker output. Maybe we should ask Devialet if this could be added in a future firmware release. Antoine - how do you handle this? Or do you live happily without matching delays through the mains and sub? RE: does anyone use subwoofers in their setup? - Antoine - 18-Jun-2015 Thanks guys for waking up those previously dormant questions in my head again. They certainly are valid questions IMO. I remember I asked Thierry Massoubre about it a long time ago as well. I had to dive deep into my email archive but found the email discussion, it's from October 2012! From even before I bought my subwoofer. My question: Quote:If I may I have a question. I’m planning to add an active subwoofer to my 2.0 set. Although my loudspeakers (Von Schweikert VR-5 Anniversary) are quite full range I’m doing this because of the peaks and nulls in the bass region present in my room. In the last few years I’ve placed an acoustic ceiling, optimized loudspeaker orientation/placement within the limits imposed by the room and even added a RPG Modex Plate basstrap. Although the sound reproduction has improved immensely in my room it hasn’t been enough for the bass region. Of course I was warned about this as you need BIG basstraps or a better room. Both options aren’t really options for me now. ;-) Thierry's answer: Quote:All time-delays are basically already compensated inside the D-Premier. We can increase this delay up to 10ms upon request. You simply need to tell us what you want and we will program a configuration for you. So yes, at least back then it was possible for Devialet to make a custom config for a customer in which they could add a delay up to 10ms. I have no idea if this is still possible/if the same conditions apply. I remember I also sent an emails to JL Audio to try to get them to share the delays due to internal processing. Of course before asking Devialet to configure a delay I had to know the actual delays. Q to JL Audio Quote:I’ve bought a JL Audio Fathom F112 and to help me with the setup process (integration with two stereo loudspeakers) I’ve got two short questions I hope I can ask you. Answer from JL Audio/Barry Ober from Sounddoctor.com. (Now you guys know where I found these links I shared on the previous page! ) Quote:2) You are only the 2nd person to astutely ask that question! As you can see, there was no real answer to my question. I believe I gave up after this although I once thought about using Dirac and I even asked the Dirac developer if his software would be able to recognize/correct any delay in lower frequencies only. Quote:Currently the only 'source' I am using is a PC so I am very much interested in Dirac Live for DRC and foremost for an optimal subwoofer integration (both time and frequency correction) but I am not sure if I can fit in Dirac Live in my current setup. Couldn't find an answer to that question. So as you can see I indeed gave it a lot of thought and tried to find out what was possible but I didn't get far. I have to say though that I can't really hear/recognize any delay that may be there so at least the benefits outweigh any possible drawbacks. Of course this is in my situation, YMMV. My sub is close to and behind my left loudspeaker. I also expressed some disappointment with Devialet pausing the plans for room correction as I had hoped to then be able to get rid of the Anti-Mode which of course also adds a bit of delay/latency due to processing. http://devialetchat.com/showthread.php?tid=46&pid=523#pid523 RE: does anyone use subwoofers in their setup? - thumb5 - 18-Jun-2015 Antoine, I appreciate your taking the time to dig through your e-mail archive! It's interesting to see the thought process you went through. It seems to me that asking Devialet to implement a custom delay in a one-off, per-customer configuration is unlikely to be an option these days, given their much larger customer base. Also it would probably take a fair bit of experiment for any one customer to determine the right delay, which would mean a lot of to-ing and fro-ing with Devialet. But maybe there could be a user-configurable delay option -- that should be more convenient all round. You'd think that wouldn't be too hard to implement (he said, rashly) although maybe there's a memory limitation. All just speculation until someone requests it, so maybe I should do just that and see what the response is. RE: does anyone use subwoofers in their setup? - Pascal - 29-Jun-2015 (18-Jun-2015, 22:46)thumb5 Wrote: Antoine, I appreciate your taking the time to dig through your e-mail archive! It's interesting to see the thought process you went through. I asked for the delay function as as 8.1.2 clearly specifies it is now implemented. Their answer: Dear Pascal, Thank you very much for your point. Our engineers are going to meet with our webmaster ASAP in order to add this feature to the online configurator. Best regards, Océane Turpin Customer Care soon.... :-) RE: does anyone use subwoofers in their setup? - thumb5 - 29-Jun-2015 Excellent, thanks Pascal. RE: does anyone use subwoofers in their setup? - Antoine - 29-Jun-2015 Great, thank you Pascal! I guess I'm going to do some measurements soon to determine the delay in my subwoofer chain (D250 pre-out+Antimode dc2.0+sub). RE: does anyone use subwoofers in their setup? - muski - 29-Jun-2015 It would be wonderful if they also implemented this so the mains delay value could be modified by the remote. It would be the equivalent of having a digital phase dial and you could tune the delay perfectly! It would be especially useful for those of with subs that only have 180 degree phase switches (as opposed to the more useful dials). RE: does anyone use subwoofers in their setup? - completeluxury - 06-Jul-2015 I was offered a great price on 2 JL 12" subs today from the distributor so hopefully i have something to add in here soon in regards to sounstage etc. does anyone use subwoofers in their setup? - Stigmater - 09-Jul-2015 Apparently not so soon Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk RE: does anyone use subwoofers in their setup? - completeluxury - 10-Jul-2015 ?????? |