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RE: New product launch? - GuillaumeB - 12-Jun-2016 (12-Jun-2016, 12:00)Confused Wrote: What will UPnP offer? Better sound and flexibility than AIR? The whole point of offering UPnP is to take the Mac and PC out of the chain and be able to stream music from your NAS or other network attached device. For many that means much less hassle - I mean just look at all the problems people have faced with AIR, supposedly caused by clocking issues deep in the Windows and OSX operating systems. That is also the attraction of streamers like the Aurenders and Melcos. Ultimately I think Devialet should provide users with a choice - UPnP, AIR, ROON, Airplay, Bluetooth... and those that want to continue using an external renderer can do so too. At the moment many feel as though they have to invest in an external renderer, simply due to the (widely reported) reliability issues surrounding AIR, not to mention the challenges (to some) of maintaining a PC or Mac audio environment. I think the key issue here is choice... Guillaume RE: New product launch? - Mka - 12-Jun-2016 #offtopic: We probably would have progressed much faster if devialet would have decided to publish the Protocoll Spec´s for the AIR protocol. RE: New product launch? - Zappydev - 12-Jun-2016 I totally agree that freedom of choice can only be a good thing, and trying force people to go with proprietary solutions is not the way to win friends and loyalty. The recent 'escape' of AIR3b has brought my system up to and beyond the level of performance and versatility that I signed up for when I first bought a D170. Anything that we get in future is indeed a bonus, and we each have a choice as to whether or not we go with further upgrades. I am looking forward to hearing what is in the pipeline, but unless it further facilitates the use of ROON with AIR and Dirac (or something similar) I can't imagine spending any money on it for a while, but for others, there may be lots of exciting new options. RE: New product launch? - Antoine - 12-Jun-2016 I mentioned it earlier but I feel like uPnP really is like going back in time. It should have been offered five years ago. But I do see it may be/seem interesting to many because of the reasons Guillaume mentioned. AIR is much more modern and versatile. It kind of was (still is) a too ambitious project for Devialet though. Unfortunately Devialet doesn't seem to believe in open source software (although this did change a bit with the Phantom/Dialog). And they also seem to be too proud (or whatever it is that holds them back) to license any proven 3rd party solutions. Them wanting to do it all themselves effectively makes us customers their beta testers and their company a software development company. A great, almost unfiltered opinion on uPnP by Roon from 2015 BEFORE they released RAAT (and they've nailed it!): https://community.roonlabs.com/t/whats-wrong-with-upnp/2101 Quote:Our contempt for UPnP basically comes down to a few things: RE: New product launch? - Dr Tone - 12-Jun-2016 If it's north of £3000 and UPNP is the new "Stable" streaming solution I'll be moving back to a 2 box solution. Ayre AX-5 Twenty and one of the plethora of DACs actually capable of doing native DSD. RE: New product launch? - octaviars - 12-Jun-2016 (12-Jun-2016, 13:43)Dr Tone Wrote: If it's north of £3000 and UPNP is the new "Stable" streaming solution I'll be moving back to a 2 box solution. Ayre AX-5 Twenty and on of the plethora of DACs actually capable of doing native DSD. I hope for that kind of money it is something really good, if I am going to upgrade my 400 and spend that amount on each of my 200 it better be good or I will look at other brands. New product launch? - NickB - 12-Jun-2016 (12-Jun-2016, 13:43)Dr Tone Wrote: If it's north of £3000 and UPNP is the new "Stable" streaming solution I'll be moving back to a 2 box solution. Ayre AX-5 Twenty and on of the plethora of DACs actually capable of doing native DSD. You don't think there might be some other improvements as well? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk RE: New product launch? - Nightmare - 12-Jun-2016 For me an internal streaming board seems to be the best, they can do. No more PC or Mac. No questions concerning AIR or other connections any more ;-) Of course they should implement roon to make it perfect. No more need for Aurender & Co.! Just one thing. Devialet should know how to feed his amp best with music. And as they always said: no cable is the best cable. Hopefully they don´t stop with the development to soon and forget something. Would be disappointing to miss roon at the end. RE: New product launch? - Rufus McDufus - 12-Jun-2016 (12-Jun-2016, 13:39)Antoine Wrote: I mentioned it earlier but I feel like uPnP really is like going back in time. It should have been offered five years ago. But I do see it may be/seem interesting to many because of the reasons Guillaume mentioned. AIR is much more modern and versatile. It kind of was (still is) a too ambitious project for Devialet though. That is a very persuasive list of arguments against UPNP. Perhaps a more ideal solution would be support for multiple transport protocols (in addition to AIR)? [edit] or just open source AIR and make it available to everyone. Perhaps someone else could fix it then! RE: New product launch? - Chris Marshall - 12-Jun-2016 2 years ago, UPNP would have made sense. Now there is ROON, it really does feel like the Stone Age. It's not even like UPNP is 100% reliable or straightforward, they would definitely be better to just fix AIR in my opinion. I assume there must be some other upgrade, I can't see anyone paying £1000 to get UPNP, never mind £3000! |