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RE: Expert Pro sound quality - moreno1973 - 31-Dec-2016 (15-Dec-2016, 16:32)MrJellyLord Wrote: I had the chance to compare my own D120 with the new D220Pro in my own home system earlier this week. Buy high quality s/h isolation feet for Your 120 (Stillpoints Ultra SS) and highest quality power cord You can afford. This will be less then 3500 Euro and You will discover new possibilites of 120. RE: Expert Pro sound quality - woodstock - 31-Dec-2016 (31-Dec-2016, 06:49)Damon Wrote: All,Hi there. Happy New year to all. I have AP Oval 9 somewhere in the closet, should dig them out and give them a listen. A great thing about having a well thought out system is that even changing cables give you different flavours, just like tube rolling. One of my best decisions I've made on this journey and I imagine some of you may shake your head, was to part with my Rogue 150s. I spent more time fretting over tube burn out, that I burned myself out. I've owned Bel Cantos and Chord Amps. in the past but the Devialet by far surpasses them both. What I have noticed thow are Digital Amps are very sensitive to the cable they use so it is good to have a variety on hand to play around with, just like if you were using tubes, except cables don't burn out. Maybe they do but not as quickly. RE: Expert Pro sound quality - boba2013 - 12-Jan-2017 (18-Dec-2016, 06:35)boba2013 Wrote:(10-Dec-2016, 06:15)woodstock Wrote:HI Damon and Woodstock(10-Dec-2016, 02:25)Damon Wrote: Thanks guys. That was a higher word-count than usual. Just had to get it all out. Okay, this is a bit early to report but, excited as "all hell"! Sitting in Ottawa Airport yesterday for flight to T.O. and then to Vancouver, UPS emails me that importation charges, duties and brokerage charges are being covered by Devialet! Unit is out for delivery! I call my wife once I checked the tracking number and sure enough, would be delivered when I was 30,000 feet above the great lakes! Wife, (good woman she is), promises to be door watching for the carrier! Sure enough, I land at 10:30PM and call that I am grabbing cab home, again, being the good woman she is, states, your toy has arrived!! So, upon arriving at home, kissing the wife, petting the dog, pouring a glass of wine, I carry the said delivery to it's home and begin to connect, burn new configuration to match what the D250 previously had and upon double checking everything, (new power cable is sweet)!!, delve into an hour of music testing off the server. Hotel California off Hell Freezes Over, played Father and Son from Tea and Tillerman which is 192/24, a few cuts from Andre Gagnon’s fabulous piano, Andrea Bocelli’s “La Vie en rose” and Corcovado, Songbird from Eva Cassidy, k.d. lang, Hallelujah,Leonard Cohen, Slow, Moody Blues, “Are you sitting comfortably” which flows into “The Dream” and then flows into “Have You Heard” Damm, it's 1:30am and I have to be up at 6am. So, very short test period, damm, I am excited as "all hell" I had missed my D250 and memory is telling me this is really, really good move. I have so much testing, moving speakers, cleaning up cables and so on but man-oh-man, I am 100% happy with the upgrade! Add my name to the upgrade is damm well worth it list! Note: What a teaser, after taking out the black amp box from the cardboard shipping container, written in beautiful letters, (250 Pro Master).........hmmm, is a slave in my future?????? Now will need to start on the wife rationalization arguments on why a 250 Pro slave is necessary, not a want but a need!!! RE: Expert Pro sound quality - r4bbit - 08-Feb-2017 I got my updated 120 > 220 pro back yesterday. I know I should wait to pass judgement until it's played for more than a few hours, but WOW. I kind of feel like I'm too easy to please, but the sound is really vastly improved in every single aspect: detail, imaging, dynamics etc. I'll write more later but for now I'm totally floored, and I feel the upgrade was worth every penny for me. RE: Expert Pro sound quality - Damon - 08-Feb-2017 rrbbit, Very good to hear that you are totally floored upon first listening. I think that first impressions are just as interesting and valid as 'down the road' impressions. The sound may or may not change, but that simply makes for a good follow up post. I know that I as well as others were equally impressed by the upgrade, straight out of the box. I agree; vastly improved in every single aspect. Perhaps the D220 Pro is more demanding, or critical, of setup, as it exposed weakness (or particular characters) in my cabling as well as my own sloppiness in arranging said cables. But I can't say that is a weakness. In any event, it is good that you are pleased; we're just here to get to the point where we get the sound we want. RE: Expert Pro sound quality - k1282 - 13-Feb-2017 i just gave away my d200 for an upgrade. waiting for it now to come back as a 220pro. it's like watching kids grow up... RE: Expert Pro sound quality - bitsnbob - 27-Apr-2017 I was disappointed with Devialet when they announced the upgrade program for the Expert range. I paid what I think is a lot of money for my 120, and within 3 years here they were touting an upgrade. I held off, and only recently acted, when I received an email proclaiming "Last chance to upgrade". Off I went to my dealer, who kindly said "take a 220 Pro home and try it out in your system". Damn him, he knew what the result would be. The 220 Pro for me, is miles ahead of the 120, in just about every criteria. That much was easy to discern pretty much straight away. I would describe the sound as offering much better placement of instruments and vocals, and those features seem to be much more in focus. On the 120, placement was fine, but the instruments seemed to run into each other, smearing the sound quite noticeably. Also noticeable for me was the control, depth and precision of the bass, which was phenomenal. I agree with some who say the treble on the 220 Pro might be a bit edgy, but a tone control adjustment around 5-6kHz would sort that out I'm sure. The bottom line for me was that I committed to the upgrade. I had to. In A/B'ing the 120 vs 220 Pro, I simply couldn't listen to the 120 alongside the 220 Pro. I knew if I didn't upgrade I would be forever sorry. That's quite a surprising thing to say, given how much pleasure the 120 has given me. My 120 is in a box somewhere headed to Northern France. Roll on 3 weeks when I should get a 220 Pro back. RE: Expert Pro sound quality - devi63 - 27-Apr-2017 +1! I decided to upgrade earlier, no regrets. Even without the streamer board the upgrade is is a fair deal. Highs were more harsh with my Martin Logans before using firmware 8 and 9, now especially pianos sound wonderful. RE: Expert Pro sound quality - Damon - 27-Apr-2017 bitsnbob, Nice report; your story and situation sound very similar to mine. I debated the upgrade in the fall, as it was a daunting expense for me, but I have not regretted the upgrade ever; not once, not even for a minute. It would have been very interesting to compare the 120 and 220 side by side. Like you, I thought the D120 was amazing (and it is, really) but the Pro series, is a substantial step up, in all the ways you mention. Give yours about 50 or 60 hours; the treble will settle down. Be careful also with cables. The Pro is, IME, much more sensitive to all cabling, cable arrangement, and source quality. For me, those things had a noticeable effect on the treble, exactly in the frequency range you mention. RE: Expert Pro sound quality - blair.athol - 05-May-2017 (27-Apr-2017, 17:30)devi63 Wrote: +1! After a bit more than a week I received back my 220 PRO today and I have to admit that I am totally impressed. I am listening to my favored tracks as wells new music tonight and its amazing. It was really good before and it seems to be still better now. Don't get it how this could be but you are right, especially pianos sound wonderful... was just listening to Now Nothing from Penguin Cafe and I am floating away... |