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Phantom competitors? - amabrok - 21-Feb-2015

The Olive One

what do you think of this? it seems to be targeting the Phantom market/proposition directly

http://www.myoliveone.com/

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RE: Phantom competitors? - jockEwing - 21-Feb-2015

I sold my Olive One the same day i got it. The delivery was more then one year late Confused The screen is really poor compared to anything in the last 10 years. Nothing for Devialet to worry about Cool


RE: Phantom competitors? - streamy - 19-May-2015

Kii Audio THREE? See: http://www.kii.audio
The German/Dutch startup looks very similar to Devialet. Did anyone hear the Kii THREE or even could compare it to the Phantoms? Similar concept, similar specs, rather more connective with Pro equipment. Curious to see the similarities, and a comparison! Will this be the direct competitor in the future?


RE: Phantom competitors? - NickB - 19-May-2015

Yes Keith (Purite Audio) has been banging on about it on the Pink Fish Forum. Says its much better than Phantom (but he would wouldn't he) It is a straight forward class d amp with signal processing, none of the adh tech of Phantom - which may be good or bad depending on your point of view.


RE: Phantom competitors? - stonedragon - 19-May-2015

(21-Feb-2015, 19:22)amabrok Wrote: The Olive One

what do you think of this? it seems to be targeting the Phantom market/proposition directly

http://www.myoliveone.com/

[Image: top_ten_tech_campaigns_indiegogo_hashslush3.jpg]

The Olive is not even on the same planet. It has as much in common with the Phantoms as I have with a Martian. Honestly. I had one and sold it. Its a STREAMER and nothing more!!


RE: Phantom competitors? - GuillaumeB - 19-May-2015

(19-May-2015, 07:05)NickB Wrote: Yes Keith (Purite Audio) has been banging on about it on the Pink Fish Forum. Says its much better than Phantom (but he would wouldn't he) It is a straight forward class d amp with signal processing, none of the adh tech of Phantom - which may be good or bad depending on your point of view.

I attended a demo of these in Munich. Quite impressive but I don't think they are really competitors to Phantom for 2 reasons: 1) price: they are going to retail at 8k+ euros for a pair and 2) form factor: they are considerably bigger than the Phantoms, I think they weigh 15 kgs each.

They do plan on bringing out smaller versions (the "three" falls in the middle of the range and is their first model to be released) so that might change of course.

They do a clever thing of projecting the sound forward so that if you stand behind the speaker it is quite quiet, despite the presence of two drivers facing the back of the speaker. They played very loud with virtually no distortion and had a very clean and refined midrange. Plenty of bass too. Some good connectivity options including analog inputs, AES/EBU digital and WISA for wireless, and will come in many different colours.

I only heard the speakers in a recording studio so it would be interesting to see how they behave in real life conditions.

Guillaume


Phantom competitors? - michirishi - 19-May-2015

I have tried lots of competitors that look nice. Zeppelin Air, Libratone live and lounge, B&O A9, Sonos. Nothing comes even close to a normal stereo setup.
When you're spending 10k on a decent hifi set you have lots of options that are better of course.
But two things:
My Phantoms are in such a different league that I can only compare them to serious high end setups in the 20.000+ range.
If I read here of people with setups t w i c e that price and how close the Phantoms are when compared, then there is only one conclusion for me: Phantoms are probably the best choice available. Very high quality, very reasonable pricerange.


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RE: Phantom competitors? - mirekti - 18-Jun-2015

I guess these will compete directly to Phantoms: http://kiiaudio.com/tech-acou.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1Nebe3ULcY
Supposedly they will be a bit more expensive, but still reasonable priced (not sure what that means Smile )
Anyhow, exciting times in front of us.


RE: Phantom competitors? - f1eng - 18-Jun-2015

(18-Jun-2015, 17:18)mirekti Wrote: I guess these will compete directly to Phantoms: http://kiiaudio.com/tech-acou.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1Nebe3ULcY
Supposedly they will be a bit more expensive, but still reasonable priced (not sure what that means Smile )
Anyhow, exciting times in front of us.

Isn't this the product Guillaume reported about in post 6?


RE: Phantom competitors? - mirekti - 18-Jun-2015

(18-Jun-2015, 19:59)f1eng Wrote: Isn't this the product Guillaume reported about in post 6?

Oh, I missed the post #3 and...
My bad.