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Connecting Apple TV to Phantoms via Amp - Sorks - 05-May-2024
Hi all
I own 2x Phantom 108db and have an "OK" relationship with them. I have them connected to the (Panasonic) TV via optical cable. I regularly have problems with sound dropouts, where every 10 seconds or so the sound is interrupted for a short moment. The problem disappears for a while after restarting both speakers. Support has not been supportive at all.
I have gone through all the typical troubleshooting steps: fixed IPs, assigned to only one access point, firmware updates, cable checks, etc. The only thing I have not been able to test is whether the problem persists with another TV.
On the other hand, they struggle not only with the optical source but also with other inputs such as Airplay when streaming high quality lossless Apple music.
To cut a long story short, I would like to put something between the Phantoms and the TV/Apple TV that not only allows me to control the volume with the Apple TV remote (HDMI eARC Receiver for example) but also potentially solves the above problems by putting the Phantoms in "dumb" mode, i.e. direct optical mode.
So as I understand it, it would be a preamplifier with HDMI input and output as well as two optical outputs. Is anyone aware about a product that does that aside from Trinnov?
Thanks and cheers!
RE: Connecting Apple TV to Phantoms via Amp - Jean-Marie - 05-May-2024
Yes, I believe it is called an HDMI audio extractor.
I have not used one myself, but if you search the internet, you find quite a few available, as for instance: https://www.audiophonics.fr/en/hdmi-extractors-c-6303.html
Please note that this is only an example as I don’t know the online shop, nor the device itself.
RE: Connecting Apple TV to Phantoms via Amp - Yondu - 16-May-2024
On "paper", not tested, this one shoud do the job : https://www.amazon.com/Extractor-Tendak-Optical-Adapter-Converter/dp/B0BJPCDF5P you will also need an optical splitter (One optical in two outs) to split signal to the Phantom on the left and one the right. The direct optical mode will permit to reduce latency (from 60-70ms approx to 3 to 5 ms) but as you said it's a "dumb" mode without other services...
RE: Connecting Apple TV to Phantoms via Amp - Yondu - 16-May-2024
(16-May-2024, 13:42)Yondu Wrote: On "paper", not tested, this one shoud do the job : https://www.amazon.com/Extractor-Tendak-Optical-Adapter-Converter/dp/B0BJPCDF5P you will also need an optical splitter (One optical in two outs) to split signal to the Phantom on the left and one the right. The direct optical mode will permit to reduce latency (from 60-70ms approx to 3 to 5 ms) but as you said it's a "dumb" mode without other services...
I'm curious to test it (i've ordered one from Amazon), I will keep you posted if it works.
RE: Connecting Apple TV to Phantoms via Amp - booshtukka - 17-May-2024
This will work fine, but will be a pain for changing volume.
RE: Connecting Apple TV to Phantoms via Amp - Yondu - 17-May-2024
(17-May-2024, 00:21)booshtukka Wrote: This will work fine, but will be a pain for changing volume.
Thanks for you input. Yes changing volume without remote is less convenient. I will have a look if this kind of product exists with a remote.
RE: Connecting Apple TV to Phantoms via Amp - booshtukka - 18-May-2024
Most optical outputs have a fixed volume. So in optical mode to change it you need to connect via a we’d browser to each phantom individually and change it there. If you can find an optical output that has a volume control then it won’t be a problem.
RE: Connecting Apple TV to Phantoms via Amp - njaiswal - 20-May-2024
I've used a sonos connect, bluesound node 2i and yamaha wx-010 to control the volume of phantoms running in optical direct mode. Good luck and let us know how you solve the problem.