(11-Apr-2015, 19:02)Damon Wrote: JD,

You're doing a lot of testing; good background for many of the rest of us. Even though my speakers do not have SAM profiles, picking a similar speaker, or in my case, one with the same or similar drivers, and trying a SAM profile at about 28% seems to be helpful. That's my take on it, anyway. I think that a small SAM nudge can give some bass extension and as others have commented, with some SAM more things come out of the midrange, which is very interesting.

But I think you've hit on the key point; select beverage, settle in, listen.

(15-Apr-2015, 04:17)Damon Wrote: Now, about that Scotch you owe me.....

(06-Feb-2020, 11:04)George680 Wrote: Hello ,

I made some adjustment to the SAM % and it made a HUGE difference to my speaker sound. Used to have it set on 100% and now it is at 50%.
I'm using a Devialet Expert 200 and Focal Diablo Utopia III speakers. When at 100% , the bass was far too heavy with some music.

The Focals actually seemed to be blown up at times when volume was high. Even at reasonable volume levels this was the case... I was very confused about it and thought my speakers were actually damaged.

But now (since today!)  everything is fine and I am really really happy : -)  I can turn up the volume and make the speakers sing.
Would recommend anyone to try out and find the right SAM % for your system. It can make a HUGE difference. Good luck !!

(06-Feb-2020, 11:04)George680 Wrote: Hello ,

I made some adjustment to the SAM % and it made a HUGE difference to my speaker sound. Used to have it set on 100% and now it is at 50%.
I'm using a Devialet Expert 200 and Focal Diablo Utopia III speakers. When at 100% , the bass was far too heavy with some music.

The Focals actually seemed to be blown up at times when volume was high. Even at reasonable volume levels this was the case... I was very confused about it and thought my speakers were actually damaged.

But now (since today!)  everything is fine and I am really really happy : -)  I can turn up the volume and make the speakers sing.
Would recommend anyone to try out and find the right SAM % for your system. It can make a HUGE difference. Good luck !!

(07-Feb-2020, 10:08)daniel.avasilichioaei Wrote:

(06-Feb-2020, 11:04)George680 Wrote: Hello ,

I made some adjustment to the SAM % and it made a HUGE difference to my speaker sound. Used to have it set on 100% and now it is at 50%.
I'm using a Devialet Expert 200 and Focal Diablo Utopia III speakers. When at 100% , the bass was far too heavy with some music.

The Focals actually seemed to be blown up at times when volume was high. Even at reasonable volume levels this was the case... I was very confused about it and thought my speakers were actually damaged.

But now (since today!)  everything is fine and I am really really happy : -)  I can turn up the volume and make the speakers sing.
Would recommend anyone to try out and find the right SAM % for your system. It can make a HUGE difference. Good luck !!

If you are using last firmware (FIRMWARE 13.1.3 DOS 2.2.4), then there are (at least) two bugs in SAM software, relating to sound quality.
This may be the cause why you have trouble with SAM = 100%. If SAM would work fine, such trouble should not occur.

Bug 1 - SAM:
Between ~10 Hz and ~30 Hz, SAM ON is performing a very strong bass sound amplification. This is MUTCH more than a simple sound adjustment to match with speakers (or SAM purpose: "SAM lets your system achieve perfect temporal alignment between the recorded signal and the acoustic pressure generated by your loudspeakers").
Inside the range 12 ÷ 20 Hz, things are getting really out of control: Expert PRO is generating clicks and distortions on medium speaker (maybe treble speaker also). The source sound is not containing such frequencies, but Expert PRO is "generating" such sounds, and they are pretty loud.

Bug 2 - SAM and bass/treble adjustment:
While increasing the TONE \ BASS setting, starting with very low values (a few dB plus), amplifier is clipping bass, and sound is getting very heavy distortions.
Bug occurrence is not depending on SAM profile (I tried multiple profiles).
This bug is only for FIRMWARE 13.1.3 DOS 2.2.4. It is NOT occurring on FIRMWARE 13.0.0 DOS 2.2.2.

(07-Feb-2020, 10:34)Pim Wrote:

(07-Feb-2020, 10:08)daniel.avasilichioaei Wrote:

(06-Feb-2020, 11:04)George680 Wrote: Hello ,

I made some adjustment to the SAM % and it made a HUGE difference to my speaker sound. Used to have it set on 100% and now it is at 50%.
I'm using a Devialet Expert 200 and Focal Diablo Utopia III speakers. When at 100% , the bass was far too heavy with some music.

The Focals actually seemed to be blown up at times when volume was high. Even at reasonable volume levels this was the case... I was very confused about it and thought my speakers were actually damaged.

But now (since today!)  everything is fine and I am really really happy : -)  I can turn up the volume and make the speakers sing.
Would recommend anyone to try out and find the right SAM % for your system. It can make a HUGE difference. Good luck !!

If you are using last firmware (FIRMWARE 13.1.3 DOS 2.2.4), then there are (at least) two bugs in SAM software, relating to sound quality.
This may be the cause why you have trouble with SAM = 100%. If SAM would work fine, such trouble should not occur.

Bug 1 - SAM:
Between ~10 Hz and ~30 Hz, SAM ON is performing a very strong bass sound amplification. This is MUTCH more than a simple sound adjustment to match with speakers (or SAM purpose: "SAM lets your system achieve perfect temporal alignment between the recorded signal and the acoustic pressure generated by your loudspeakers").
Inside the range 12 ÷ 20 Hz, things are getting really out of control: Expert PRO is generating clicks and distortions on medium speaker (maybe treble speaker also). The source sound is not containing such frequencies, but Expert PRO is "generating" such sounds, and they are pretty loud.

Bug 2 - SAM and bass/treble adjustment:
While increasing the TONE \ BASS setting, starting with very low values (a few dB plus), amplifier is clipping bass, and sound is getting very heavy distortions.
Bug occurrence is not depending on SAM profile (I tried multiple profiles).
This bug is only for FIRMWARE 13.1.3 DOS 2.2.4. It is NOT occurring on FIRMWARE 13.0.0 DOS 2.2.2.

It's quite possible these problems only occur with a specific speaker's profile. I remember @Confused had a problem with his KEF Blade SAM profile. The only difference here, which I can't explain, is that it changes with firmware versions. Out of interest, what speakers do you use?