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This is how we want our Expert amplifiers to sound!
#11
Amen to that!!


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#12
(14-Oct-2016, 14:53)srima Wrote: Whereas high end video is marching towards 4K, quantum dot displays, HDR, and many other innovations, high end audio is stuck in the 1940s still.

Yeah, but they look rubbish until you run them from a dedicated mains spur with after-market linear power supply and bespoke cryogenically treated HDMI cables. Even then it takes months for them to be remotely pleasing to the eye. Wink

>>> 1st Place Award: Devialet, last decades most disappointing technology purchase.  <<<

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#13
Don't forget the correct stands to stop pixel vibration and non sequential colouring of the octets.


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(14-Oct-2016, 14:53)srima Wrote: Good grief, would you trade in your ultra modern Tesla autonomous driving car for a bullock cart driven by two mangy cows? That's what the Berning amplifier design sounds to me like. A huge step backwards in every respect, designed by a tube aficionado who has been building tube amplifiers his entire life, never learned to adjust to modern solid state integrated circuit designs, and wants to rip people off. Honestly, the gullibility of high end audio folks never ceases to amaze me (and explains a lot about why Trump is so popular). 75000 for a pair of tube amplifiers that produces 60 watts at high levels of harmonic distortion. That's like walking into a Lexus shop where they charge you $500,000 for this special car driven by two cows, goes at 4 mph, and consumes no gasoline or electrical power (need grass to feed the cows, though!). 

Robert Harley is a typical example of a high end audio reviewer who changes his "absolute best sound reference amplifier" by the month, depending on who loans him equipment, and who advertises in TAS. Stereophile is no exception to this sad story. 

Whereas high end video is marching towards 4K, quantum dot displays, HDR, and many other innovations, high end audio is stuck in the 1940s still. Devialet is a rare exception to this trend.

I am sure it felt good to vent the frustration...
I've had my Devialet amp since early 2012 and I really like it! the Berning amps are six times more expensive than my D-Premier was at the time. With the Berning amps you'd need a DAC and a phono stage plus cables in addition. Probably a pre-amp too to connect it all.  To keep the quality level you would have to spend an additional $30.000, if not more.
One Expert amp does all this. Maybe it does not sound quite as good as the Bernnig, but I am sure it is really close. That is why I suggest Devialet should listen to the Berning amps to see (hear) if there is something they can improve. Devialet owners do this all the time. Galvanic isolation, power supplies, cables, streamers... Why shouldn't Devialet do this too?

EDIT I almost forgot to mention the most important improvement for digital audio: the re-clocker
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#15
One of my acquaintances was absolutely thrilled with his Berning amp (a less expensive one than these) until he heard a Devialet. He sold the Berning.
The Berning way of avoiding transformers is solid state btw, it is a tiny bit similar to Devialet only, if I understand correctly, it is the valves which define the voltage and the unique solid state bit defining the current.
They do have levels of distortion considerably above the traditional audibility threshold, so however nice they sound they are not transparent.
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