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#11
The system, on paper, looks more complicated then it is and especially looks like physically! Smile

I myself have never used HDMI/infrared so don't miss these a bit. Wink Very nice of Devialet to upgrade the optical input for you!
PS Audio P3, Shunyata ΞTRON Alpha Digital/Lessloss DFPC Signature/Furutech power cables, Paul Hynes SR7EHD-MR4, Roon, Sonore microRendu/SoTM sMS-200, Curious USB cable, Audioquest Diamond RJ/E ethernet, Mutec MC-3+ USB, Shunyata ΞTRON Anaconda Digital XLR AES/EBU, Devialet Expert 250 Pro, Nordost Tyr Reference LS cables, Von Schweikert VR-5 SE Anniversary Edition, Anti-Mode Dual Core 2.0, JL Audio Fathom F112. More detail here.

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#12
(13-Jun-2014, 13:09)Antoine Wrote: I myself have never used HDMI/infrared so don't miss these a bit. Wink Very nice of Devialet to upgrade the optical input for you!
I didn't use the infra red either but the HDMi for TV sound and SACDs.
Strictly speaking Devialet are not upgrading the optical input but not downgrading it as they normally have to do when going D-Premier > 250! I am extremely grateful nonetheless. I can use my Astell & Kern 240 to stream any type of file they way.
Devialet Original d'Atelier 44, Goldmund Reference/T3f /Ortofon A90, Goldmund Mimesis 36+ & Chord Blu, iMac/Air, Meridian Control 15, Lynx Theta, Tune Audio Anima, Goldmund Epilog 1&2, REL Studio. Dialog, Silver Phantoms, Branch stands, copper cables (mainly).

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(13-Jun-2014, 22:14)f1eng Wrote:
(13-Jun-2014, 13:09)Antoine Wrote: I myself have never used HDMI/infrared so don't miss these a bit. Wink Very nice of Devialet to upgrade the optical input for you!
I didn't use the infra red either but the HDMi for TV sound and SACDs.
Strictly speaking Devialet are not upgrading the optical input but not downgrading it as they normally have to do when going D-Premier > 250! I am extremely grateful nonetheless. I can use my Astell & Kern 240 to stream any type of file they way.

Hi Antoine,
Before upgrading your PC components you should check The Paul Pang website.
http://ppastudio.blogspot.tw
Every Paul Pang component I installed had a very big effect on the overall sound of my system. The combined effect is astounding.
The "source first" principle is easely demonstrated with an audio pc, so much to improve in this area.
USB sounds better than ethernet or wifi in my setup.
Devialet 400, Crystal Cable link, Kimber Kable Monocle XL, B&W 802 Diamond.
Rega RP8, Rega Apheta 2.
Naim powerlines, Totaldac USB cable.
Hot Rod Audio PC (Paul Pang: OCXO super SSD 64GB, V3 OCXO USB card) ).
120w Paul Pang dual rail linear psu for MB and processor. Teddy Pardo Linear PSU for V3 USB card. Bakoon BPS-02 for OCXO super SSD.
Win 8.1 (minimal services running), ROON, JRiver, JRemote.
Qnap NAS TS-459 Pro+.
Acousense GISO GB Lan Isolator
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#14
Hi Hermanh, I'm receiving all the new parts tomorrow or the day after, no PPAStudio parts yet although I did look at them earlier and may experiment with some of them in the future. to be honest, the products/website didn't give me a feeling of being 'solid' and 'proven' but of course I could be completely wrong about that.
PS Audio P3, Shunyata ΞTRON Alpha Digital/Lessloss DFPC Signature/Furutech power cables, Paul Hynes SR7EHD-MR4, Roon, Sonore microRendu/SoTM sMS-200, Curious USB cable, Audioquest Diamond RJ/E ethernet, Mutec MC-3+ USB, Shunyata ΞTRON Anaconda Digital XLR AES/EBU, Devialet Expert 250 Pro, Nordost Tyr Reference LS cables, Von Schweikert VR-5 SE Anniversary Edition, Anti-Mode Dual Core 2.0, JL Audio Fathom F112. More detail here.

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#15
All components were delivered this week so I built my new HTPC/Devialet music server machine (specs below). It's up&running now and I'll run it using Windows 8.1 Pro for a while to establish some baseline before trying Windows Server 2012 R2. Let the tweaking/experimenting begin!! Wink

The PC is connected to the Devialet using both ethernet and USB. Ethernet (AIR) for music streaming and USB for 'non-critical' applications like Youtube, XBMC (TV series). I already found out that the Devialet needs the ground active in USB to function while I was hoping it didn't so that I wouldn't have to feed the Devialet the "dirty" PC USB power. I guess I could try and use a iFi USB power supply combined with a USB splitter cable to isolate the Devialet more from the PC.

For movies and other surround media the Dolby AC3/DTS decoding is done by the old Tag McLaren surround processor which is fed by an optical cable from this PC. The Devialet amplifies the front channels in pass-through mode and the rears are amplified by a Lyngdorf SDA2175 power amplifier.

Later I will use the second Intel ethernet NIC to feed the Devialet directly using only one ethernet cable and thus circumventing the use of the switches and additional cabling in my network. Some have said this makes a difference, I guess I'll find out if it really does myself soon. Smile


Case: Streacom FC5 WS EVO
PSU: Streacom NanoPsu 150W Adapter Kit
Mainboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97MX-Gaming 5
CPU: Intel Core i3-4350T 35W dual core 3.1gHz hd4600
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LP CML8GX3M2A1600C9B 2x4GB
SSD: Samsung 840 EVO 500GB
2nd NIC: Intel Gigabit CT Desktop Adapter

OS: Windows 8.1 Professional
Music server software: JRiver Media Center 19
Other media: XBMC 13.1 for now
Remote Control: iPad 3 with JRemote for remote control

PS: I'm also looking at a Keces/Teddy Pardo/Teradak/... linear PSU for the PC.
PS2: Also looking at additional ethernet isolation like Acousence Giso (http://www.acousence.de/index.php?option...90&lang=en)
PS Audio P3, Shunyata ΞTRON Alpha Digital/Lessloss DFPC Signature/Furutech power cables, Paul Hynes SR7EHD-MR4, Roon, Sonore microRendu/SoTM sMS-200, Curious USB cable, Audioquest Diamond RJ/E ethernet, Mutec MC-3+ USB, Shunyata ΞTRON Anaconda Digital XLR AES/EBU, Devialet Expert 250 Pro, Nordost Tyr Reference LS cables, Von Schweikert VR-5 SE Anniversary Edition, Anti-Mode Dual Core 2.0, JL Audio Fathom F112. More detail here.

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(21-Jun-2014, 13:06)Antoine Wrote: PS2: Also looking at additional ethernet isolation like Acousence Giso (http://www.acousence.de/index.php?option...90&lang=en)
Don't worry about galvanic isolation of your Ethernet port. This is done within the devialet anyway.
Od'A Nr. 72 -> Sonus Faber Amati Futura  -> JRiver MC 21 -> Synology NAS / Quboz  - Clearaudio Champion 2 SME V
D1000pro -> Magico V2 -> Fanless NUC i5 (Broadwell) -> Jriver MC 21/ Bauer DPS3i / Lyra Kleos
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#17
There are times I feel like an idiot having this hobby, and today I really feel like an idiot!ConfusedBig Grin

I just bought these two cables, Audioquest Vodka RJ/E ethernet (1,5m) and Carbon USB (0,75m).

As a former IT network engineer, especially the ethernet cable makes me wonder if I've lost my mind. Wink

Talking about crazy; I removed the internals of my 12V 150W power supply adapter for the PicoPSU from it's plastic case and built it into the music server machine. There was plenty of room and this way i would get rid of the big brick lying around the set radiating it's RFI/EMI fields freely.

I made an aluminium housing around it (0,5mm plate and aluminium+copper foil) that hopefully will create a Faraday cage to keep most of the RFI/EMI inside. The Streacom case itself is also fully made of metal.

Also I added a big ferrite bead after the original ferrite and gave the cable 6 turns around it to further reduce RFI interference.

(21-Jun-2014, 15:50)Mka Wrote:
(21-Jun-2014, 13:06)Antoine Wrote: PS2: Also looking at additional ethernet isolation like Acousence Giso (http://www.acousence.de/index.php?option...90&lang=en)
Don't worry about galvanic isolation of your Ethernet port. This is done within the devialet anyway.

Yes, I checked and indeed found the TDK IC I posted elsewhere on this forum but nonetheless I will look at it further to see if adding additional isolation could be beneficial. Later I may also experiment with ethernet->optical media converters. Smile


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PS Audio P3, Shunyata ΞTRON Alpha Digital/Lessloss DFPC Signature/Furutech power cables, Paul Hynes SR7EHD-MR4, Roon, Sonore microRendu/SoTM sMS-200, Curious USB cable, Audioquest Diamond RJ/E ethernet, Mutec MC-3+ USB, Shunyata ΞTRON Anaconda Digital XLR AES/EBU, Devialet Expert 250 Pro, Nordost Tyr Reference LS cables, Von Schweikert VR-5 SE Anniversary Edition, Anti-Mode Dual Core 2.0, JL Audio Fathom F112. More detail here.

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#18
Well I'm a sometimes systems and network engineer and have a CCNE, and I'll back you up on this Antoine! I've heard Audioquest Vodka & Diamond in Guillaume's superb system and they both give improvements, the Diamond in particular but the Vodka noticeable too.
It's funny I don't feel I have the resolution in my own system to confidently tell the difference, but on one that's on a different level to mine it's much more apparent and it's a worthy addition.
I've been meaning to try optical for ages too. I bought a managed switch with 4 SFP ports in a couple of years ago but yet to try it out. Of course it requires a converter on the end the Devialet is on so could be a source of noise. I also tried wireless on the MiND - it's different (should it be?!), and I liked it for a while, then thought it was less musical and went back to ethernet.

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Devialet 200, Melco N1A, Rega RP6/Exact, Raidho C-1.1, grounding boxes.
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#19
I'm seriously impressed Antoine!! The attention to detail is simply fantastic and commendable. I really do believe that every single thing in the chain matters (yes I'm nuts too! Tongue). Some of these tweaks might only give you a tiny improvement but once you add them all up they do make a difference.

Guillaume
Industry disclosure: UK distributor for Shunyata Research

O d'A no.63, Absolare Integrated Signature, totaldac d1 server with additional external power supply, totaldac d1-six, Wilson Audio Sasha 2, Transparent Ref XL digital cables, Transparent XL Gen 5 speaker cables, Ansuz Diamond Darkz, Shunyata mains cable prototypes, Shunyata Denali D6000/S, Shunyata Venom RCA, Audioquest Diamond Ethernet, Various Entreq ground boxes and cables, Paul Pang Audiophile switch w/ MCRU LPS,  sonicTransporter w/ 1TB SSD & MCRU LPS
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(24-Jun-2014, 16:36)GuillaumeB Wrote: I'm seriously impressed Antoine!! The attention to detail is simply fantastic and commendable. I really do believe that every single thing in the chain matters (yes I'm nuts too! Tongue). Some of these tweaks might only give you a tiny improvement but once you add them all up they do make a difference.

Guillaume

My friends and I were curious on USB cables, whether they matter. We did understand why linear PSU for the USB cable matters. So we tried to compare several of them.

We tried 2 random stock USB vs. AQ Carbon vs. Furutech GT2 vs. Vertere Acoustics D-fi vs. AQ Coffee. We concluded that the AQ and Furutech were marginally better then the random stock USBs, each of them (including the different stock cables) has different emphasis on tones. Vertere was overall more balanced and much more musical, pretty close to AQ Coffee. AQ Coffee did come up better but at a significantly higher cost.
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