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(12-Jul-2015, 18:46)f1eng Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-Jul-2015, 14:34)MountainGuy Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-Jul-2015, 10:10)Confused Wrote: [ -> ]I often find that after reading extensively about a product in hi fi magazines and myself forming a particular view on a product, when I finally get to hear for myself I wonder what on earth the reviewers were listening to, my ears telling me something very different to the viewers words.  I'll reserve judgment on the Phantom until I have had a chance for a decent listen myself, which will be next Wednesday as it happens at OAC's dealer launch.  I know that a number of people planning to visit this event do have what could be broadly termed "$50,000 systems" (and at least one individual, considerably more than that!)  Should be interesting!

Thanks.  I would love to hear your thoughts after your audition.  Of all user reviews, none have taken issue with the clean, tight bass.  It's the mids that some feel falls short. Love to hear yours. 

By the way, how did it compare with the Naim and Dynaudio actives in the HifiChoice review?

Thanks,
UL

PMFJI I have had silver Phantoms for 4 months now and have experience of the Naim Muso which I quite like. If I score my main system as 10 the Phantoms are a good 9 and the Naim Muso around 3.

(14-Jul-2015, 11:25)IanG-UK Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-Jul-2015, 18:46)f1eng Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-Jul-2015, 14:34)MountainGuy Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-Jul-2015, 10:10)Confused Wrote: [ -> ]I often find that after reading extensively about a product in hi fi magazines and myself forming a particular view on a product, when I finally get to hear for myself I wonder what on earth the reviewers were listening to, my ears telling me something very different to the viewers words.  I'll reserve judgment on the Phantom until I have had a chance for a decent listen myself, which will be next Wednesday as it happens at OAC's dealer launch.  I know that a number of people planning to visit this event do have what could be broadly termed "$50,000 systems" (and at least one individual, considerably more than that!)  Should be interesting!

Thanks.  I would love to hear your thoughts after your audition.  Of all user reviews, none have taken issue with the clean, tight bass.  It's the mids that some feel falls short. Love to hear yours. 

By the way, how did it compare with the Naim and Dynaudio actives in the HifiChoice review?

Thanks,
UL

PMFJI I have had silver Phantoms for 4 months now and have experience of the Naim Muso which I quite like. If I score my main system as 10 the Phantoms are a good 9 and the Naim Muso around 3.

I've only heard the Muso in a different room so my view is not as informed as Frank's but I'd rate it in the 2 - 4 points range ... and like Frank if my main system is rated 10 then I'd rate the Phantom at 9. Remarkable. 

It would be interesting to hook up some KEF LS50s (c.£800) to an Expert 800 (c.£20k) and see how that stacks up against a pair of Silver Phantoms (c.£3.5k).

And whilst HFChoice scores them highly it seems to be standard journalist practice these days to rate just about everything highly and to compare with just about nothing.

(14-Jul-2015, 16:42)f1eng Wrote: [ -> ]

(14-Jul-2015, 11:25)IanG-UK Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-Jul-2015, 18:46)f1eng Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-Jul-2015, 14:34)MountainGuy Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-Jul-2015, 10:10)Confused Wrote: [ -> ]I often find that after reading extensively about a product in hi fi magazines and myself forming a particular view on a product, when I finally get to hear for myself I wonder what on earth the reviewers were listening to, my ears telling me something very different to the viewers words.  I'll reserve judgment on the Phantom until I have had a chance for a decent listen myself, which will be next Wednesday as it happens at OAC's dealer launch.  I know that a number of people planning to visit this event do have what could be broadly termed "$50,000 systems" (and at least one individual, considerably more than that!)  Should be interesting!

Thanks.  I would love to hear your thoughts after your audition.  Of all user reviews, none have taken issue with the clean, tight bass.  It's the mids that some feel falls short. Love to hear yours. 

By the way, how did it compare with the Naim and Dynaudio actives in the HifiChoice review?

Thanks,
UL

PMFJI I have had silver Phantoms for 4 months now and have experience of the Naim Muso which I quite like. If I score my main system as 10 the Phantoms are a good 9 and the Naim Muso around 3.

I've only heard the Muso in a different room so my view is not as informed as Frank's but I'd rate it in the 2 - 4 points range ... and like Frank if my main system is rated 10 then I'd rate the Phantom at 9. Remarkable. 

It would be interesting to hook up some KEF LS50s (c.£800) to an Expert 800 (c.£20k) and see how that stacks up against a pair of Silver Phantoms (c.£3.5k).

And whilst HFChoice scores them highly it seems to be standard journalist practice these days to rate just about everything highly and to compare with just about nothing.

Ian I will do the LS50/800 compared to silver Phantom once I get the branch stands (since I am using the stands the LS50s normally go on for the Phantoms so far).
I would guess the Phantoms will win.

(14-Jul-2015, 16:42)f1eng Wrote: [ -> ]

(14-Jul-2015, 11:25)IanG-UK Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-Jul-2015, 18:46)f1eng Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-Jul-2015, 14:34)MountainGuy Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-Jul-2015, 10:10)Confused Wrote: [ -> ]I often find that after reading extensively about a product in hi fi magazines and myself forming a particular view on a product, when I finally get to hear for myself I wonder what on earth the reviewers were listening to, my ears telling me something very different to the viewers words.  I'll reserve judgment on the Phantom until I have had a chance for a decent listen myself, which will be next Wednesday as it happens at OAC's dealer launch.  I know that a number of people planning to visit this event do have what could be broadly termed "$50,000 systems" (and at least one individual, considerably more than that!)  Should be interesting!

Thanks.  I would love to hear your thoughts after your audition.  Of all user reviews, none have taken issue with the clean, tight bass.  It's the mids that some feel falls short. Love to hear yours. 

By the way, how did it compare with the Naim and Dynaudio actives in the HifiChoice review?

Thanks,
UL

PMFJI I have had silver Phantoms for 4 months now and have experience of the Naim Muso which I quite like. If I score my main system as 10 the Phantoms are a good 9 and the Naim Muso around 3.

I've only heard the Muso in a different room so my view is not as informed as Frank's but I'd rate it in the 2 - 4 points range ... and like Frank if my main system is rated 10 then I'd rate the Phantom at 9. Remarkable. 

It would be interesting to hook up some KEF LS50s (c.£800) to an Expert 800 (c.£20k) and see how that stacks up against a pair of Silver Phantoms (c.£3.5k).

And whilst HFChoice scores them highly it seems to be standard journalist practice these days to rate just about everything highly and to compare with just about nothing.

Ian I will do the LS50/800 compared to silver Phantom once I get the branch stands (since I am using the stands the LS50s normally go on for the Phantoms so far).
I would guess the Phantoms will win.