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I think I've asked this before but don't remember the answer. 

With the Phantom, can one simply connect a laptop USB output to the Phantom, or the Dialog (for stereo) so that all sounds form the laptop is put through the USB?  This would assume an internal USB capable DAC. 

Or does one have to go optical? 

Thanks,
MtnGuy
Unfortunately you have to use toslink. The USB in Dialog isn't activated yet and when activated it will be, according to the white paper, reserved for communication with the Expert line amps.
Don't forget the ethernet connection with Spark running on the Mac.
Thanks. Glad I asked.

So question - with a Windows laptop, can I simply purchase a dongle that takes the USB signal and outputs to optical, and then plug that into the Dialog? Is there any loss in quality or is the USB to Optical output a bit perfect transformation? I'm a bit confused about this as most computers to not have optical outputs so I wonder how they expected computers to connect to the Dialog.

I apologize for what must be a very basic question as they are many Phantom owner and some must be running form their computer as source.

Thanks!
MtnGuy
(16-Jul-2015, 23:00)MountainGuy Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks. Glad I asked.

So question - with a Windows laptop, can I simply purchase a dongle that takes the USB signal and outputs to optical, and then plug that into the Dialog?   Is there any loss in quality or is the USB to Optical output a bit perfect transformation?   I'm a bit confused about this as most computers to not have optical outputs so I wonder how they expected computers to connect to the Dialog.  

I apologize for what must be a very basic question as they are many Phantom owner and some must be running form their computer as source.

Thanks!
MtnGuy

My apologies if I have misunderstood your query but optical was unlikely to be the primary input for computer, Wi-Fi and Ethernet were, as per the following Devialet website extract

- Play through Wi-Fi all the music stored on your computer, tablet or phone

- Connect sources via optical (Airport extreme, Bluetooth module, game console, CD player, DVD, Blu-Ray)

And again from Devialet

- Devialet's Spark application - downloadable for free- allows you to control your Phantom all together or individually, via Wi-Fi from your computer, smartphone or tablet.

However, if you prefer to use another music program/app (Roon, JRiver etc.), then a USB converter is one way to achieve this.  There are some very good USB->coaxial converters but this again only highlights the lack of suitable connections on the Dialog.  I'll have to leave it to other forumites to suggest an optical converter.
(16-Jul-2015, 23:37)Thanks Alandbush, Glad I asked and grateful for the replies. I see, so for computer, I would use WIFI.  Does the Dialog connect to a home router, and then I connect through the computer to router and then to Dialog?   Or does my computer wife connect DIRECTLY to the Dialog - which means I then loose connection to my WIFI router?  I know, the above is rudimentary question.  Sorry about that. And with Dialog, I can only use Spark? Or can I set it so that all sounds out of my windows based computer is not routed through the Dialog?   I stream Spotify, talk on Skype, youtube videos  etc.  Sounds like none of that can go through the Phantom unless I take USB out to Optical and then to Phantom?   If that is so, then wow - that\s a huge hit. Mtn Guy  alandbush Wrote: [ -> ]
(16-Jul-2015, 23:00)MountainGuy Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks. Glad I asked.

So question - with a Windows laptop, can I simply purchase a dongle that takes the USB signal and outputs to optical, and then plug that into the Dialog?   Is there any loss in quality or is the USB to Optical output a bit perfect transformation?   I'm a bit confused about this as most computers to not have optical outputs so I wonder how they expected computers to connect to the Dialog.  

I apologize for what must be a very basic question as they are many Phantom owner and some must be running from their computer as source.

Thanks!
MtnGuy

My apologies if I have misunderstood your query but optical was unlikely to be the primary input for computer, Wi-Fi and Ethernet were, as per the following Devialet website extract

- Play through Wi-Fi all the music stored on your computer, tablet or phone

- Connect sources via optical (Airport extreme, Bluetooth module, game console, CD player, DVD, Blu-Ray)

And again from Devialet

- Devialet's Spark application - downloadable for free- allows you to control your Phantom all together or individually, via Wi-Fi from your computer, smartphone or tablet.

However, if you prefer to use another music program/app (Roon, JRiver etc.), then a USB converter is one way to achieve this.  There are some very good USB->coaxial converters but this again only highlights the lack of suitable connections on the Dialog.  I'll have to leave it to other forumites to suggest an optical converter.
Sorry about the bold and no formatting. Not sure why - I typed it with normal formatting but it put all together and then in bold. Sorry about that.

MtnGuy
Dialog uses your existing network. You don't need to disconnect from it and connect to the Dialog. That would be a disaster.
(17-Jul-2015, 04:16)MountainGuy Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks Alandbush, Glad I asked and grateful for the replies. I see, so for computer, I would use WIFI.  Does the Dialog connect to a home router, and then I connect through the computer to router and then to Dialog?   Or does my computer wife connect DIRECTLY to the Dialog - which means I then loose connection to my WIFI router? Mtn Guy

Yes to your first question as Trashken replied.
Definitely No! to connecting your computer 'wife' to the Dialog.  Big Grin
(18-Jul-2015, 13:19)Phs Wrote: [ -> ]If you use Apple devices to play your music my advice would be: get yourself an Apple Airport Express, hook it to the optical port of Phantom or Dialog and just use Airplay to play directly from your favorite music app. You can then forget about Spark after setting the global volume once ( 70 in my case)
PH

@MountainGuy: Perhaps the above is a solution.
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