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So, a audiophile-grade receptacle will improve SQ for sure? Would you guys recommend Furutech or Wattgate? I'm living in China with 240V, will a 20A receptacle safe for installation and for my hifi equipments?

I have Furutech GTX-D too. Fantastic upgrade. I was sceptical, but no longer.
Don't know about Wattgate. At the time (last year) the comparisons I heard/read were between Oyaide and Furutech but possibly from people who hadn't heard Wattgate. Some people really like Oyaide.
Because this was switching to fuseless US plugs (as Guillaume did) I switched the mains circuit breakers from 16A to 10A ones.

20A-rated receptacles should be fine provided the circuit breakers trip at a fair bit less than that. If you mean 20A circuit breakers , that would be a bit on the high side to provide adequate protection I'd have thought, unless you're plugging in lots of high power components on the same spur/circuit.

Getting a qualified electrician to check this out/do the work is a very good idea in terms of life preservation by the way!

electrician by trade here.

if you are talking about a 20a plug/receptacle/power point (honestly im lost might be a translation thing there) then it will be irrelevant.

your circuit breaker size is to suit your cable size. Circuit breakers by design and purpose are to protect the wiring only.

so if you have a 16 amp circuit breaker you can put whatever you want on the other end it will still trip when you hit 16 amps either way.

(29-Apr-2015, 11:28)completeluxury Wrote: [ -> ]electrician by trade here.

if you are talking about a 20a plug/receptacle/power point (honestly im lost might be a translation thing there) then it will be irrelevant.

your circuit breaker size is to suit your cable size. Circuit breakers by design and purpose are to protect the wiring only.

so if you have a 16 amp circuit breaker you can put whatever you want on the other end it will still trip when you hit 16 amps either way.

so, if my circuit breaker has a 16A breaker, a 20A receptacle is not useful as if power exceeds 16A, the circuit breaker will trip, right?

(29-Apr-2015, 12:09)hk6230 Wrote: [ -> ]

(29-Apr-2015, 11:28)completeluxury Wrote: [ -> ]electrician by trade here.

if you are talking about a 20a plug/receptacle/power point (honestly im lost might be a translation thing there) then it will be irrelevant.

your circuit breaker size is to suit your cable size. Circuit breakers by design and purpose are to protect the wiring only.

so if you have a 16 amp circuit breaker you can put whatever you want on the other end it will still trip when you hit 16 amps either way.

so, if my circuit breaker has a 16A breaker, a 20A receptacle is not useful as if power exceeds 16A, the circuit breaker will trip, right?

Correct. Who needs 20 amps for their audio equipent nyway! 20 amps of curent is 4600 watts. You definitely dont draw that much!

(29-Apr-2015, 14:41)completeluxury Wrote: [ -> ]

(29-Apr-2015, 12:09)hk6230 Wrote: [ -> ]

(29-Apr-2015, 11:28)completeluxury Wrote: [ -> ]electrician by trade here.

if you are talking about a 20a plug/receptacle/power point (honestly im lost might be a translation thing there) then it will be irrelevant.

your circuit breaker size is to suit your cable size. Circuit breakers by design and purpose are to protect the wiring only.

so if you have a 16 amp circuit breaker you can put whatever you want on the other end it will still trip when you hit 16 amps either way.

so, if my circuit breaker has a 16A breaker, a 20A receptacle is not useful as if power exceeds 16A, the circuit breaker will trip, right?

Correct. Who needs 20 amps for their audio equipent nyway! 20 amps of curent is 4600 watts. You definitely dont draw that much!

I think most of the "audiophile" US-style mains sockets (for e.g. Oyaide R1 and R0, Furutech GTX-D) are rated to 15A or 20A which is obviously way more than you would ever need. 

I just noticed that Furutech have a new wall socket range, the FPX, which might be worth investigating.

http://www.furutech.com/2013/02/02/1750/

Guillaume

(29-Apr-2015, 15:03)GuillaumeB Wrote: [ -> ]

(29-Apr-2015, 14:41)completeluxury Wrote: [ -> ]

(29-Apr-2015, 12:09)hk6230 Wrote: [ -> ]

(29-Apr-2015, 11:28)completeluxury Wrote: [ -> ]electrician by trade here.

if you are talking about a 20a plug/receptacle/power point (honestly im lost might be a translation thing there) then it will be irrelevant.

your circuit breaker size is to suit your cable size. Circuit breakers by design and purpose are to protect the wiring only.

so if you have a 16 amp circuit breaker you can put whatever you want on the other end it will still trip when you hit 16 amps either way.

so, if my circuit breaker has a 16A breaker, a 20A receptacle is not useful as if power exceeds 16A, the circuit breaker will trip, right?

Correct. Who needs 20 amps for their audio equipent nyway! 20 amps of curent is 4600 watts. You definitely dont draw that much!

I think most of the "audiophile" US-style mains sockets (for e.g. Oyaide R1 and R0, Furutech GTX-D) are rated to 15A or 20A which is obviously way more than you would ever need. 

I just noticed that Furutech have a new wall socket range, the FPX, which might be worth investigating.

http://www.furutech.com/2013/02/02/1750/

Guillaume

with the american voltage they need a much higher current rating than european/asian/australian

(29-Apr-2015, 15:45)completeluxury Wrote: [ -> ]

(29-Apr-2015, 15:03)GuillaumeB Wrote: [ -> ]

(29-Apr-2015, 14:41)completeluxury Wrote: [ -> ]

(29-Apr-2015, 12:09)hk6230 Wrote: [ -> ]

(29-Apr-2015, 11:28)completeluxury Wrote: [ -> ]electrician by trade here.

if you are talking about a 20a plug/receptacle/power point (honestly im lost might be a translation thing there) then it will be irrelevant.

your circuit breaker size is to suit your cable size. Circuit breakers by design and purpose are to protect the wiring only.

so if you have a 16 amp circuit breaker you can put whatever you want on the other end it will still trip when you hit 16 amps either way.

so, if my circuit breaker has a 16A breaker, a 20A receptacle is not useful as if power exceeds 16A, the circuit breaker will trip, right?

Correct. Who needs 20 amps for their audio equipent nyway! 20 amps of curent is 4600 watts. You definitely dont draw that much!

I think most of the "audiophile" US-style mains sockets (for e.g. Oyaide R1 and R0, Furutech GTX-D) are rated to 15A or 20A which is obviously way more than you would ever need. 

I just noticed that Furutech have a new wall socket range, the FPX, which might be worth investigating.

http://www.furutech.com/2013/02/02/1750/

Guillaume

with the american voltage they need a much higher current rating than european/asian/australian

Correct.

Guillaume

Personally i dont see the point in putting a specialised power point on the wall though. Most of the emi comes from cables running through the roof and not at the outlet.

I can see how having an isolation transformer and a decent power cable is a worthwhile investment however!

(30-Apr-2015, 01:08)completeluxury Wrote: [ -> ]Personally i dont see the point in putting a specialised power point on the wall though. Most of the emi comes from cables running through the roof and not at the outlet.

I can see how having an isolation transformer and a decent power cable is a worthwhile investment however!

You may be right. However, it's just a small tiny investment to pay. Whether it'll be placebo effect or not, if it doesn't add much to the SQ, at least you know you have quality receptacle for your hifi equipments. And, what if it turns out great? 

From most forums on the internet, most claims to hear vast improvements. So, I'm definitely going for it. 

P.S. My slight problem is how I can get it install without letting my missus know.