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Hello,
This is my first post. I have one Silver Phantom. I don't plan in the near future to have a second one as I use the speaker in the office where what I need is a solid compact speaker. Having said that, I want to get the most of it and want to make the sound as lossless as possible.

Possibilities:
1 - If I connect my laptop/iphone to the speaker via wifi, I can only stream from Spotify, not Tidal, so it's not ideal.

2 - I can connect the laptop to the speaker via bluetooth (aptx) and stream Tidal. Wonderful but bluetooth is not ideal (I have to have the laptop centimeters away from the speaker) and I guess even Aptx is not lossless.

3 - Buy a Dialog. The issue is that I have two networks at home, one is a wireless modem without ethernet port. The other is an actual router with a very very poor connection which will not be able to stream hi-def music by any means. So if I have to connect dialog via ethernet cable, I guess the music will have to be downloaded through the same network connection and that will not work. Besides, I do not plan to get another Phantom so it seems a waste to buy a dialog.

4 - I connected an Apple TV to the Phantom via optical cable (QED) and stream music from Tidal in my laptop to the Apple TV via wifi (Airport). 

Now, I guess this final solution I found is ideal because it's over wifi and the source is lossless (tidal). But as I am not an expert, let me know if there is something I could do better. Is there any bottleneck in this system? Assuming Tidal is lossless, the stream to apple TV is lossless, and the optical cable is lossless, and phantom speakers do not have any issues with optical input, it looks perfect to me. But please clarify Smile

Thanks so much!
(26-Aug-2016, 16:38)noyoudont Wrote: [ -> ]Hello,
This is my first post. I have one Silver Phantom. I don't plan in the near future to have a second one as I use the speaker in the office where what I need is a solid compact speaker. Having said that, I want to get the most of it and want to make the sound as lossless as possible.

Possibilities:
1 - If I connect my laptop/iphone to the speaker via wifi, I can only stream from Spotify, not Tidal, so it's not ideal.

2 - I can connect the laptop to the speaker via bluetooth (aptx) and stream Tidal. Wonderful but bluetooth is not ideal (I have to have the laptop centimeters away from the speaker) and I guess even Aptx is not lossless.

3 - Buy a Dialog. The issue is that I have two networks at home, one is a wireless modem without ethernet port. The other is an actual router with a very very poor connection which will not be able to stream hi-def music by any means. So if I have to connect dialog via ethernet cable, I guess the music will have to be downloaded through the same network connection and that will not work. Besides, I do not plan to get another Phantom so it seems a waste to buy a dialog.

4 - I connected an Apple TV to the Phantom via optical cable (QED) and stream music from Tidal in my laptop to the Apple TV via wifi (Airport). 

Now, I guess this final solution I found is ideal because it's over wifi and the source is lossless (tidal). But as I am not an expert, let me know if there is something I could do better. Is there any bottleneck in this system? Assuming Tidal is lossless, the stream to apple TV is lossless, and the optical cable is lossless, and phantom speakers do not have any issues with optical input, it looks perfect to me. But please clarify Smile

Thanks so much!

I prefer Chromecast audio compared to Airplay for internet music as Chromecast has a direct path to the internet streaming site. 

Chromecast audio path      internet to Chromecast ( app can be closed and streaming will continue)
Airplay audio path              internet to phone/pc to Airplay device (app closed streaming will stop)

Tidal app (ios/android) works with Chromecast I believe. Chromecast audio uses mini optical port and does 24/96 audio.
Hi mate,

Welcome to the forum!

If I were you I would have a good listen to the difference between Spotify via WIFI and Tidal via Apple TV. I would sincerely doubt that you would hear any difference in sound quality on a single Phantom.

I know in theory lossless is better but in my experience the original recording quality is more important than the format it comes in. So, if you can't hear a difference, WIFI is clearly the easiest option.

I would be interested to know your findings.

Cheers,

Pim