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Hi,

I sold my Phantom golds and bought the Boenicke W5 stand mount speakers. I'm thinking of trying the new Expert 140 PRO since I want AirPlay. 

I've searched the forum and it seems that a few of you own Boenicke speakers. What do you say about the W5 + 140 PRO match? Will they play nice together, have you tried a similar combo? 

Since my budget is quite stretched already I can't go any higher in the PRO range. I could buy a used 250 but then I wouldn't have the AirPlay option (I don't want to use AIR or ROON at this point).

Thanks!
(02-May-2019, 14:49)Soundside Wrote: [ -> ]Hi,

I sold my Phantom golds and bought the Boenicke W5 stand mount speakers. I'm thinking of trying the new Expert 140 PRO since I want AirPlay. 

I've searched the forum and it seems that a few of you own Boenicke speakers. What do you say about the W5 + 140 PRO match? Will they play nice together, have you tried a similar combo? 

Since my budget is quite stretched already I can't go any higher in the PRO range. I could buy a used 250 but then I wouldn't have the AirPlay option (I don't want to use AIR or ROON at this point).

Thanks!

Good news: the Boenicke W5 SE speakers are SAM-profiled by Devialet.  That should give you some assurance!
(02-May-2019, 19:20)Flashman Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-May-2019, 14:49)Soundside Wrote: [ -> ]Hi,

I sold my Phantom golds and bought the Boenicke W5 stand mount speakers. I'm thinking of trying the new Expert 140 PRO since I want AirPlay. 

I've searched the forum and it seems that a few of you own Boenicke speakers. What do you say about the W5 + 140 PRO match? Will they play nice together, have you tried a similar combo? 

Since my budget is quite stretched already I can't go any higher in the PRO range. I could buy a used 250 but then I wouldn't have the AirPlay option (I don't want to use AIR or ROON at this point).

Thanks!

Good news: the Boenicke W5 SE speakers are SAM-profiled by Devialet.  That should give you some assurance!

Yeah I saw that, that's great. But can I use that preset even though I don't have the W5 SE? Or how can I add the regular W5?
I’ll bet it will work. Maybe you could check with Sven Boenicke just to be sure.
Looks like the difference between W5 and the SE version is in the bass department so I would be careful using the W5 SE profile for the W5.
(03-May-2019, 01:56)Pim Wrote: [ -> ]Looks like the difference between W5 and the SE version is in the bass department so I would be careful using the W5 SE profile for the W5.

Yeah that’s correct. Is it possible for the Devialet team to add the regular W5 to SAM just tweaking the bass response or do they need the actual speakers to measure? 

What do you think about power then, will the 140 PRO be enough?
I am quite certain Devialet will have to measure the regular 5W version. SAM is not easy to tweak even for those with full access to data, I believe.
5W is around 84dB/W/m so the low sensitivity is the only limiting factor if you like to play loud. Otherwise a 140 should have no problems driving the speakers. Others would need to comment on the synergy between amp and speakers ( I guess that is what you are actually asking about...)
Ok, that sounds about right. Hopefully tvey can add the speaker. I’m not playing loud, I just don’t want the speakers to be held back due to low power.

Yes, I would love some input on Boenicke / Devialet synergy since I don’t have the opportunity to test the combo right now.

For the moment I’m using Naim with the W5’s and they work well together.
In case the W5s dont get added to SAM, is it still worth going with Devialet, or am I better of looking elsewhere?

Would you consider using/buying Expert Pro knowing your speakers aren’t supported?
(06-May-2019, 19:41)Soundside Wrote: [ -> ]In case the W5s dont get added to SAM, is it still worth going with Devialet, or am I better of looking elsewhere?

Would you consider using/buying Expert Pro knowing your speakers aren’t supported?

Personally I would still go with Devialet because I am yet to find an amplifier that approaches even by one order of magnitude the performance of the Devialet expert pro in terms of THD and IMD

SAM is a nice addition, but I could live happily without it. 

Jean-Marie
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