I think this thread is very helpful for Cosmosund either intentionally or unintentionally. The thread started off with some dubious numbers in terms of MSRP and I'm not sure of the intention of the original post. This will hurt genuine Devialet dealers and current owners. I request the moderators to delete the thread.
In any case, I wish the OP good luck and encourage him to post his impressions of Gryphon.
Stino Wrote:Maybe we should close the discussion and welcome the person starting the thread (friffithstrife) to share his experience with the sound differences between the Devialat and the Gryphon. I'm curious about it since I never had the opportunity to hear one despite their big fan base, especially among Magico speaker owners.
So, please, let's bring the positive vibe back and turn this thread around into a useful information sharing.
See post #30 for the comparative review, link below:
https://devialetchat.com/Thread-My-thoug...7#pid91667
One point to note, Devialet amps include protection features to prevent the kind of clipping that is prone to damage speaker drive units.
(01-Apr-2020, 15:12)PeppaPig Wrote: [ -> ] (01-Apr-2020, 13:09)Antoine Wrote: [ -> ]Think the dealer in Greece he was referring to is Cosmosound Technologies/Echos Audio (Cyprus based). Haven’t seen ‘Cosmotech’ here recently but he is the forum user that offered everyone ‘trade prices’ when they were trying to sell their Devialet on this forum’s marketplace.
Their dealership was cancelled by Devialet I remember him telling us but that did not stop them selling new and heavily discounted Devialets. Even today there’s a 440 on their website.
I can assure everyone here, amongst the big brand that the OP was mentioned, I can get really low price too, nearly half of the RRP.
If one found a source that offers extremely low price, good luck. It’s not only Devialet, it happen to even more high end brands.
But OP’s post is really sucks. Shouldn’t post information like this publicly, it hurts some people.
And the rest of thing he mentioned, none of it is so true and so bad. Last update was Roon RAAT supported, communication? Did MBL communicate with you better? No! Full of xxxxx logic and unrealistic expectations.
I googled, did not find a $15K 1000Pro. Please share the link or photo of partial receipt that proves.
After sales services of Devialet so good, their support has been helping me effectively about any question I had. They fixed one of my remote purchased from eBay for free.
Sound quality, it’s amazing, some of the most expensive speaker used it for demo, what else you are expecting for this size of amp?
Um, what?
Look man, I came to share my opinion my view, not damage or change others.
If you think 15k is made up, go on audiogon and make an offer.
I have been offered 1000 pro for 12k.
And before anyone comes in screaming about 2nd hand, what difference does it make, you get full 5 year warranty and Devialet sees it has new.
I keep hearing all this batshit insanity that everyone does this. It's absurd.
The amp was great for its size and form factor, everyone who loves it great love it. I would buy one again for a bedroom amp in a heart beat.
But people acting like it kills every amp ever is simply obscene, I love the Gryphon right now its better than the Devialet but I am not trying to shit on Devialet or D'agstino.
Devialet was where I was D'agstino is where I want to be. I can be honest and respectful about all 3 without shitting on them.
But being honest, sometimes means, being honest about shitty things. Don't hate me, hate the shit that smells.
(01-Apr-2020, 17:09)Confused Wrote: [ -> ]Stino Wrote:Maybe we should close the discussion and welcome the person starting the thread (friffithstrife) to share his experience with the sound differences between the Devialat and the Gryphon. I'm curious about it since I never had the opportunity to hear one despite their big fan base, especially among Magico speaker owners.
So, please, let's bring the positive vibe back and turn this thread around into a useful information sharing.
See post #30 for the comparative review, link below:
https://devialetchat.com/Thread-My-thoug...7#pid91667
One point to note, Devialet amps include protection features to prevent the kind of clipping that is prone to damage speaker drive units.
I did not mean to imply the amp blew the drivers, simply that the SAM might not be all its cracked up to be.
I think we heard your message and it’s ok in saying goodbye and what made you do so.
But also respect that many people here are still convinced about the performance of Devialet. And its special features like SAM which is not by accident one of the most awarded and appreciated technologies in the market.
And regarding the pricing: well on a global scale you will always find someone who is trying to sell you some „insane offer“.
(01-Apr-2020, 20:37)markush Wrote: [ -> ]I think we heard your message and it’s ok in saying goodbye and what made you do so.
But also respect that many people here are still convinced about the performance of Devialet. And its special features like SAM which is not by accident one of the most awarded and appreciated technologies in the market.
And regarding the pricing: well on a global scale you will always find someone who is trying to sell you some „insane offer“.
Man I agree with you, but I don't think I spoke bad about the sound or the gear. I said the sound is great, it was heaven for me at first.
I simply explained why IN MY OPINION Devialet can't succeed with this strategy. I was not as detailed as I should of been, I may have made too many typos. But everything I said is being bundled into an attack on an ideology.
Maybe this is why I left Devialet too much about feeling and less about sound.
The wording “left Devialet” pretty much sums it up doesn’t it?
As far as I am concerned I am not “with Devialet”, I use a Devialet amplifier.
It not being about sound is entirely in the realm of your perception and has nothing to do with the objective performance of the device.
Cheers,
Bernard
(01-Apr-2020, 23:05)bernardl Wrote: [ -> ]The wording “left Devialet” pretty much sums it up doesn’t it?
As far as I am concerned I am not “with Devialet”, I use a Devialet amplifier.
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It not being about sound is entireeeedfhgely in the realm of your perception and has nothing to do with the objective performance of the device.
Cheers,
Bernard
Well, I don't understand your meaning.
If you mean the brand plays a role, well if cousee it does.
Devialet has a different sound from other brands. That's a good thing. But when the room gets bigger, or the speaker gets more power hungry.
Devialet says just mono block the amps. Ok cool but they want to charge for another dac and pre amp.
And the extra power does not deliver the effect they try to sell it as.
But i am an insane liar for pointing any of it out.
I was an early adopter, bought the D-Premier which became the D250 PRO after 2 factory upgrades over the years. I probably have invested more than I should with the upgrades instead of just trading it in for the latest model, but no regrets. Devialet has some issues just like any companies and I'm a bit concern with their focus shifted to wireless speakers; however, I still love my Devialet and won't trade it for anything else. Customer supports for Expert is still good from my recent experience. I recently migrated to Roon Nucleus+ from Meridian Sooloos. Roon and the Roon Ready D250 PRO is a great combination, the only feature missing is MQA support for Tidal.
It's hard for small audio companies to keep up with firmware updates when they have to comply with big tech's hardware and OS changes. I've been using Meridian and invested a lot of money in the Sooloos ecosystem. Meridian is a much bigger and older company than Devialet, but they finally threw in the towels and stopped supporting Sooloos last year as they couldn't maintain their software to keep up with Apple and Microsoft. Meridian is a shadow of it's former self. They also need to license their technology to LG for soundbars and try to get in the automotive market to stay alive. I believe Devialet is also trying to get in the auto market but so far without much success. It's unfortunate that majority of today's consumers prefer headphones, wireless speakers and soundbars.
(01-Apr-2020, 23:45)griffithstrifeWell, I don\t understand your meaning. Wrote: [ -> ]If you mean the brand plays a role, well if cousee it does.
And the extra power does not deliver the effect they try to sell it as.
But i am an insane liar for pointing any of it out.
I don't know, it's the first time I hear complaints about the ability of the Devialet to drive tough loads. If anything that's one of it's main qualities.
I don't believe that I, or anybody else for that matter, has called you an insane liar.
Your comments convey an emotional distance with the brand that, I feel, doesn't lend itself to an objective assessment of product qualities.
HiFi+ just selected the 140 as of one the best amplifiers in the world. You may be pleased to read that a Gryphon was in the list also.
Cheers,
Bernard
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griffithstrife - as others have stated, some of your claims seem exaggerated and unsubstantiated and some of it may strike a nerve because we feel that the very best aspect of our Devialet gear is the sound quality. Hey, criticize Devialet's business strategy, poor communication, agonizingly slow response to bugs, etc.... and we're all right there with you. Despite the clear weaknesses with Devialet, we are all still here because we love how it plays music.
Please note... your words "But I am an insane liar for pointing any of it out" are your chosen words, not from anyone here. IMHO, the constructive responses you have received are warranted based on what you've posted and how you've expressed it. Agree or disagree, we're all here because this is a hobby we greatly enjoy. Please don't take any of it personally.
I wish you the best of luck in your search for audio gear that works best for you.