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RE: Ethernet or wifi streaming and white noise on Mac - IanG-UK - 30-Apr-2015 (30-Apr-2015, 16:09)AlexS Wrote:(29-Apr-2015, 22:07)IanG-UK Wrote: Good point Alex. We may be talking about different noise Alex. I get very similar experience whether ethernet or wifi. Maybe the noise comes slightly quicker with wifi but I have not timed this. The timing is too random. The noise I get is definitely not crackles or drop outs. It is continuous, starting quietly, and becoming more prominent. It is not necessarily a volume thing - more that the noise swamps the music, as though the music almost disappears. The Devialet AIR software engineer has heard it and seen the OS experience on my MacBook as the interference happens. He is absolutely clear that it is a clocking issue - so for me to describe it as a generic white noise is probably inaccurate. But I cannot think of how to describe it otherwise! RE: Ethernet or wifi streaming and white noise on Mac - Confused - 30-Apr-2015 White noise for me (over in Windows land), is indeed loud as Alex states, loud relative to the volume of the preceding music without a doubt. What does it sound like? More or less like an FM radio between channels or an analogue TV without an aerial and the volume cranked up. RE: Ethernet or wifi streaming and white noise on Mac - Hifi_swlon - 01-May-2015 (30-Apr-2015, 22:04)Confused Wrote: White noise for me (over in Windows land), is indeed loud as Alex states, loud relative to the volume of the preceding music without a doubt. What does it sound like? More or less like an FM radio between channels or an analogue TV without an aerial and the volume cranked up. OK, well, I've definitely not experienced that - just a throbbing/thwapping distorted sound. So, am I right in thinking that with Air, people are experiencing popping and crackling (like me), a loud untuned FM radio style white noise, and other things like my strobing/throbbing noise? I can only assume Devialet are aware of all these? Or is it best to let them know about it each time? I dont want them to think it isn't happening, but I know that bombarding support with known issues can also use up their resources... RE: Ethernet or wifi streaming and white noise on Mac - Mac User - 01-May-2015 (29-Apr-2015, 12:48)IanG-UK Wrote: I've had the opportunity to deal direct with the Devialet engineer who writes the coding for AIR. Thanks so much for your efforts Ian, you've nailed exactly what I hear too. RE: Ethernet or wifi streaming and white noise on Mac - AlexS - 01-May-2015 (01-May-2015, 10:15)Hifi_swlon Wrote:(30-Apr-2015, 22:04)Confused Wrote: White noise for me (over in Windows land), is indeed loud as Alex states, loud relative to the volume of the preceding music without a doubt. What does it sound like? More or less like an FM radio between channels or an analogue TV without an aerial and the volume cranked up. Regarding this particular kind of noise, yes, I would describe this as precisely as you can to Devilaet Support, as they may not be aware of this variation. Regarding Ian's description of the white noise he's getting, it may well sound somewhat differently between MAC and PC. That's why it's probably a good idea to have two separate threads active - one for PC, the other one for MAC. RE: Ethernet or wifi streaming and white noise on Mac - Rufus McDufus - 01-May-2015 With AIR 2.1.4-beta4 I've had the 'throbbing' noise - it's like a drop in volume lasting for perhaps 1/4 of a second and repeated every 1/2 to 1 second at a constant rate. It 'pulses' non stop. Restarting AIR solved it. I've also had crackling with 2.1.4-beta4 - exactly when the PC display turned off automatically. Prior to 2.1.4-beta4 (i.e 2.1.3) I only hear dropouts or white noise. I haven't heard either of these with 2.1.4-beta4. This is all with Windows 7 64-bit. I wrote to Devialet with my findings. No reply yet. RE: Ethernet or wifi streaming and white noise on Mac - IanG-UK - 17-Jun-2015 I feel I owe readers an update on my (and many many others') AIR "white noise" issue since it is now almost seven weeks since I started this thread and it is around a year since I first raised this with my dealer and/or distributor and/or Devialet. I won't go over all the futile experiments I've conducted (effectively on Devialet's behalf, over that one year period) to try to track down the fault. When what should have happened is that Devialet should have immediately conducted rather more focussed experiments and concluded them nine months ago. The fact remains that a good proportion of Devialet's users, who want to use AIR, find it is faulty. And have found it faulty for many months. I find it annoying that Devialet can devote the time and efforts of 60 engineers, over a year or more, to develop Phantom (their "budget" product) and yet fail to deliver their four year old "flagship" product (fortunately no longer called "Premier") as a priority. Especially when AIR was one of Devialet's four USPs (ADH, EVO, AIR, SAM). Perhaps this is an indication that the focus has shifted from sustained quality to substantial profitability. Understandable but regrettably dishonest. RE: Ethernet or wifi streaming and white noise on Mac - midi - 17-Jun-2015 Has anybody tested Apples OS beta 10.10.4 ? There is a big WLAN system change in 10.10.4. RE: Ethernet or wifi streaming and white noise on Mac - AlexS - 19-Jun-2015 (17-Jun-2015, 17:28)IanG-UK Wrote: I feel I owe readers an update on my (and many many others') AIR "white noise" issue since it is now almost seven weeks since I started this thread and it is around a year since I first raised this with my dealer and/or distributor and/or Devialet. Judging by the fact that Devilaet still has not released a prod version of AIR 2.1.4-beta4, which tested satisfactorily for many Windows users, I won't be surprised if there is a complete re-write of AIR looming on the horizon. But this is just a pure speculation. I've not made any inquiries to Devialet on this topic. Ethernet or wifi streaming and white noise on Mac - Magagne - 19-Jun-2015 Speculation, but, it's the most logic hypothesis. Rebuild from scratch it's sometime a better decision, even if it's take time consuming (and cost). But don't pass me the bill of the DevialetDialog gizmo, to make the devialetAir happen, because I'll not be happy at all to pay for an extra gadget, just to get the initial feature (streaming) that I already pay for it. The fact is, my apple airportexpress, 1st generation, do 16/44 flawlessly, so there's absolutely no excuse here that the devialetAir cannot work without cracking noise in 16/44, moreover if we use Ethernet/rj45. Don't blame solidity of the network (in rj45 all the way, there's no reason to get white noise). The architecture that devialetAir decide to use for the network is a in house solution, and, it's not mature yet. Sound great, when it works. Saying that, Devialet, it's the best sound system that I never had, I come from a trusty last 15 years relation with NAIM only mid gear (Nait3, Nait5, SN2/V1), saying that, I don't regret my switch/choice at all, even before jumping I known that the devialetAir had problems, I jumped, because devialet It's the Tesla car of amplification, with an innovative motor design (hybrid amplification), and it works, and works very well (SQ). An awesome performance machine. Don't be afraid of new technology/architecture, don't hesitate, try it. JUMP. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |