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RE: Spark is so awful - I hope Airplay is coming - dmitrek - 11-Feb-2016 Spark is super-expensive to make and it's good that Devialet even providing this, instead of hardware only controls and requirement to buy other equipment to make Phantoms work. Airplay option won't really help: Airplay uses compressed audio and could be playing with the gaps. As for the interface design — it could be made better, sure way. Just give them some time! RE: Spark is so awful - I hope Airplay is coming - Hifi_swlon - 11-Feb-2016 (11-Feb-2016, 02:03)Lolo90 Wrote: …. It originated in the Roon forums, where the Roon founders discussed Devialet's position - which to summarise was an initial interest in the Expert range compatibility, but flat refusal for anything Phantom, and more recently turned into Devialet not even taking a meeting to discuss the idea further on either platform. Roon would love to get Devialet onboard. Devialet it appears have little to no interest. As far as I'm aware from discussions on the Roon forum, not only is their SDK free to use and integrate, Roon actively help manufacturers do it, and test it. Why manufacturers - not just Devialet - want to lock people into their own ecosystem is beyond me in this day and age, but I guess they get something from it. The only thing I can think of in this case is (a) they assume Spark's is amazing and you woukldnt want anything else and/or (b) since it only works with Phantoms you'll have to buy Phantoms for all your other rooms in multi-room setup, whereas with an open system you'd be free to choose. Of course, to my mind this will work on a bunch of customers that just walk into a shop and buy something unsuspecting of these restrictions/limitations, but the other bunch that are more educated will chose something else. I guess theyve done the maths and the 'uneducated' are out there in larger numbers. Or, these brands are just arrogant RE: Spark is so awful - I hope Airplay is coming - Hifi_swlon - 11-Feb-2016 (11-Feb-2016, 09:47)dmitrek Wrote: Spark is super-expensive to make …. It didn't feel it when I tried it. RE: Spark is so awful - I hope Airplay is coming - Johnnydev - 11-Feb-2016 (11-Feb-2016, 08:33)frenkb Wrote:(10-Feb-2016, 20:26)booshtukka Wrote: As seems to be the general consensus here, the speakers themselves are amazing. But the app is crap. Hi frenkb: I totally agree with you. i using spark on the same way as you do only then with quboz and it's working for me also fine, especially when using the devialet remote. That thing is great for me and the whole family! And yes devialet has to do a several updates etc., but i have confidence that if we give devialet the time it certainly will be fine. I operate also with macbookpro and ipad's en several i phono's and it's just good that when one of these devices/apps closes that the music is not stop playing. At this way you can take over the music from every device without stopping the music. If you want to stop the music, just do it in the spark app on one of the devices. Also the language i totally agree with you, we do our best to give it in the best englisch we have However unfortunate that there are people like sekriT on this site who find it necesarry to have to give up critism here in a rude way I think devialet delivers a great job, especialy if you use the system as intended. RE: Spark is so awful - I hope Airplay is coming - Hifi_swlon - 11-Feb-2016 (11-Feb-2016, 10:08)Johnnydev Wrote: Also the language i totally agree with you, we do our best to give it in the best englisch we have Johnnydev, do I take it you work for Devialet? RE: Spark is so awful - I hope Airplay is coming - Johnnydev - 11-Feb-2016 (11-Feb-2016, 10:20)Hifi_swlon Wrote:(11-Feb-2016, 10:08)Johnnydev Wrote: Also the language i totally agree with you, we do our best to give it in the best englisch we have no, I think they also have the same problems with the language and I 'm not a Frenchman , just a happy customer RE: Spark is so awful - I hope Airplay is coming - Jamington2004 - 11-Feb-2016 Great thread . A little story from a newbie to the modern world below I have always been a vinyl nut and bought the Phantoms with no intention of that changing - but now I realise the benefits of streaming from my phone with so little difference in SQ - I am seriously thinking of packing my records and TT away for the time being! Anyway - not being a streamer at heart I have been happily putting up with Spark Tidal on my phone and all its shortfalls - being blinded by the magic of it all! Then came Spotify connect - and I noticed just how much better the software is. Then I realised I could actually stream the main TIDAL App to my Apple TV or Airport and into the dialogue. Again the main Tidal App makes mincemeat of the Spark app - looks wise and functionality. I have now worked out if I put dialogue optical onto "auto detect" and into my optical switch with TT / Apple TV / Sky Box plugged in ...... I think I need never open Spark at all? Spotify goes straight to Phantom Tidal goes to Apple TV (which doesn't even need switching on as it auto detects the stream) then is auto detected by dialogue It's a shame they don't just add Phantoms as a source in the Tidal App like in Spotify, then I wouldn't need my Apple TV or Optical in the chain. I could then get rid of my Optical switch (as I have done with my Bluetooth receiver now Sporify connect is there) and just plug my skybox into dialogue - and swap for my TT on the odd occasion. So either AirPlay (if SQ isn't compromised) or Tidal to Phantom direct would make it all Perfect for me And to add to the list of Spark Tidal issues - after the last update I don't see the track name on the "now playing" bar at the bottom - only artist And only one play queue / no playlists / no favourites So I am one happy Devialet customer - but am beginning to understand all the fuss about Spark now I am starting to use the other apps! On a final positive note - since the last couple of updates I and toggle between optical and Tidal seamlessly without crashing the system. Before I had to careful to pause one source before starting the other...and even then.... RE: Spark is so awful - I hope Airplay is coming - sekriT - 11-Feb-2016 frenkb and Johnnydev, We realize that you are the happy couple on this forum. We couldn't care less if you agree with each other. If Spark is working well for you, it's because your expectations are set too low. Not the case for the remaining 97% of this forum. You don't have to give us psychotherapy by saying that everything is going to be alright. There were times that we were patient and waiting. Watching the pace of progress in Spark, it will take them at least 3 years to make Spark an OK interface. If you guys are young and can wait that long, that's fine. We think it is time for Devialet to deliver what they promised to their customers. RE: Spark is so awful - I hope Airplay is coming - booshtukka - 11-Feb-2016 Quote:You last point is because Spark is not playing the files directly, the Phantoms are streaming themselves. All different apps can control the Phantoms (I operate from my MacBook pro, iPhone and iPad) so when which one closes should the Phantoms stop playing? Well, you could have an option in the settings saying "Stop playing when app is closed? Yes/No". That seems an easy solution. Quote:And the bad translation, what's wrong with French? Maybe we should accept more languages are okay and it's amateuristic to expect everything to always be in English . Nothing is wrong with French. My mother is French. But if everything was badly translated in the other direction, from English to French, I would also think that unacceptable from a luxury brand. RE: Spark is so awful - I hope Airplay is coming - Johnnydev - 11-Feb-2016 (11-Feb-2016, 13:44)sekriT Wrote: frenkb and Johnnydev, 97% of this forum ????? |