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RE: Whole new system coming… October 24th - daniel.avasilichioaei - 21-Oct-2024
(21-Oct-2024, 13:37)zoran_pavlovic Wrote:(21-Oct-2024, 11:12)daniel.avasilichioaei Wrote: I will be disappointed if there will be a new Expert: that would be confirmation that the current Expert line has been completely abandoned.
So what? Expert is still a great unit. I have a Pass Labs power amp, the latest model. Shall I write to the factory to stop with new inventions and models? Or as soon as the new model appears sell my amp and purchase a new one? The situation for Devialet is not bright: doing nothing, no updates, and no upgrades on the Expert line leads to higher sales of used Expert units. Take a look at the Hi-Fi Shark and you will see more and more Experts on sale and prices are going down. One Italian put his Expert Pro 220 CI for 2.400 euros and it is 2 months on sale, and still available. Another German one published his 440 CI for 5.999 Euros (and it is negotiable) - a month on hi-fi shark and still available. So, no worries about your unit, it will keep the price better if Deviealet doesn't give up on the Expert line.
Well, I, as an Expert owner, am not at all happy with the fact that the bugs in the configurator and firmware will remain forever, nor with the fact that the second-hand price will drop dramatically if a new amplifier model appears.
RE: Whole new system coming… October 24th - ada - 21-Oct-2024
(21-Oct-2024, 12:39)ada Wrote: The campaign name is Phoenix, I don’t know if that could lead to anything.
Hopefully this is not revival of the Lost Recordings LPs
I was just digging deeper on if Devialet called anything Phoenix before and actually they did, here is the ChatGPT answer when I search for Devialet and Phoenix but of course I have no clue if this is related with the announcement:
Whole new system coming… October 24th - Waiski - 21-Oct-2024
Maybe it is firmware update to Pro?
RE: Whole new system coming… October 24th - zoran_pavlovic - 21-Oct-2024
(21-Oct-2024, 16:06)Waiski Wrote: Maybe it is firmware update to Pro?
Isn’t it too much “ what is coming is unlike anything that’s done before “ just for firmware update ?
RE: Whole new system coming… October 24th - zoran_pavlovic - 21-Oct-2024
(21-Oct-2024, 14:08)daniel.avasilichioaei Wrote:(21-Oct-2024, 13:37)zoran_pavlovic Wrote:(21-Oct-2024, 11:12)daniel.avasilichioaei Wrote: I will be disappointed if there will be a new Expert: that would be confirmation that the current Expert line has been completely abandoned.
So what? Expert is still a great unit. I have a Pass Labs power amp, the latest model. Shall I write to the factory to stop with new inventions and models? Or as soon as the new model appears sell my amp and purchase a new one? The situation for Devialet is not bright: doing nothing, no updates, and no upgrades on the Expert line leads to higher sales of used Expert units. Take a look at the Hi-Fi Shark and you will see more and more Experts on sale and prices are going down. One Italian put his Expert Pro 220 CI for 2.400 euros and it is 2 months on sale, and still available. Another German one published his 440 CI for 5.999 Euros (and it is negotiable) - a month on hi-fi shark and still available. So, no worries about your unit, it will keep the price better if Deviealet doesn't give up on the Expert line.
Well, I, as an Expert owner, am not at all happy with the fact that the bugs in the configurator and firmware will remain forever, nor with the fact that the second-hand price will drop dramatically if a new amplifier model appears.
Yes, I see your point and agree. But current version is still strong and great, just go to Audiogon and you will see that Devialet is still rated as great high-end unit, what I think as well
RE: Whole new system coming… October 24th - iamwappie - 21-Oct-2024
(21-Oct-2024, 17:42)zoran_pavlovic Wrote:(21-Oct-2024, 16:06)Waiski Wrote: Maybe it is firmware update to Pro?
Isn’t it too much “ what is coming is unlike anything that’s done before “ just for firmware update ?
Since they stopped doing that for a loooooong time it is at least a very funny remark :-)
RE: Whole new system coming… October 24th - zoran_pavlovic - 21-Oct-2024
(21-Oct-2024, 18:30)iamwappie Wrote:(21-Oct-2024, 17:42)zoran_pavlovic Wrote:(21-Oct-2024, 16:06)Waiski Wrote: Maybe it is firmware update to Pro?
Isn’t it too much “ what is coming is unlike anything that’s done before “ just for firmware update ?
Since they stopped doing that for a loooooong time it is at least a very funny remark :-)
Hahah … yes, right 😊
RE: Whole new system coming… October 24th - Delija - 21-Oct-2024
(21-Oct-2024, 13:37)zoran_pavlovic Wrote:(21-Oct-2024, 11:12)daniel.avasilichioaei Wrote: I will be disappointed if there will be a new Expert: that would be confirmation that the current Expert line has been completely abandoned.
So what? Expert is still a great unit. I have a Pass Labs power amp, the latest model. Shall I write to the factory to stop with new inventions and models? Or as soon as the new model appears sell my amp and purchase a new one? The situation for Devialet is not bright: doing nothing, no updates, and no upgrades on the Expert line leads to higher sales of used Expert units. Take a look at the Hi-Fi Shark and you will see more and more Experts on sale and prices are going down. One Italian put his Expert Pro 220 CI for 2.400 euros and it is 2 months on sale, and still available. Another German one published his 440 CI for 5.999 Euros (and it is negotiable) - a month on hi-fi shark and still available. So, no worries about your unit, it will keep the price better if Deviealet doesn't give up on the Expert line.
99.99% - fake/scam ads.
We have a common friend who lost 3000 euros this way.
I told him the price is too good to be true - unfortunately, I was right
About other things you wrote - I'm with you.
I would like to see a new model.
RE: Whole new system coming… October 24th - yabaVR - 21-Oct-2024
Hey guys,
I can tell you it's a new Expert Line (told by officials).
The new line will start at top (20.000€ plus) and there is only one smaller model coming but nothing like the 200 or 220 Pro they said. Maybe that's for later. But at first only two high priced models.
Color seems to be copper(ish)...we'll see.
gui
RE: Whole new system coming… October 24th - ada - 21-Oct-2024
(21-Oct-2024, 21:49)yabaVR Wrote: Hey guys,
I can tell you it's a new Expert Line (told by officials).
The new line will start at top (20.000€ plus) and there is only one smaller model coming but nothing like the 200 or 220 Pro they said. Maybe that's for later. But at first only two high priced models.
Color seems to be copper(ish)...we'll see.
gui
Makes total sense to me and that’s why they call it Phoenix as the mythological create reborns from its own ashes and if they are going back to making amps it is no brainer…