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Herman's system - Hermanh - 23-Jun-2014
Front end:
Devialet 200,
Kimber Kable Monocle XL,
B&W 802 Diamond,
Naim Powerline.
Analogue:
Rega RP8,
Rega Apheta,
Rega Ios phono amp,
Kimber Kable KS1016 IC.
Naim Powerline.
Audio PC:
Hot Rod Audio PC
MB tray: QDIY Professional Modder Acrylic Case (PC-D001N)
Win 8.1, audio optimized (http://www.blackviper.com )
JRiver 19 + Gizmo,
i7 3370S @ 1600, NOFAN Cr 95C Black Pearl cpu cooler.
Asus P8 H77 M.
Seasonic fanless Platinum 400 PSU (MB +CPU)
Naim Powerline.
Audioquest Diamond USB Cable.
Paul Pang SSD + Bakoon BPS 02 (5V, 1A) PSU,
Paul Pang USB + Teddy Pardo PSU (5v, 3A),
Paul Pang 8 gb DDR3,
Paul Pang Red Sata Cable
Paul Pang Seasonic ATX power cable, Usb to sata cable, Usb to molex cable
Network:
QNAP TS-459 Pro+ 4x 3TB
Naim Powerline.
GISO 1 gb Lan Isolator
RE: Herman's system - Petter - 23-Jun-2014
Hi nice system .)
But just a question ,Where do you place the GISO 1 gb Lan Isolator ?
RE: Herman's system - Hermanh - 23-Jun-2014
(23-Jun-2014, 17:13)Petter Wrote: Hi nice system .)
But just a question ,Where do you place the GISO 1 gb Lan Isolator ?
Hi,
The Audio PC and the Devialet are in the same room. The NAS is in another room and on another floor to avoid any noise interference in het listening room.
My Audio Pc is connected to a switch to connect it to the NAS containing the WAV files.
My Devialet is connected to the audio pc via USB, the ethernet is only connected to allow for remote control via the android app.
In this setup I placed the GISO between the switch and the Audio Pc.
RE: Herman's system - warpeon - 24-Jun-2014
Did you feel USB is superior to ethernet? I always had the impression ethernet is superior because TCP/IP protocol is 2-way and validates data sent, vs. USB is 1-direction, plus the ability to passing noise from computer to devialet. Would love to learn from your experiences.
I had USB dacs before and found ifi or aqvox to isolate the power supply for the USB makes things quieter. Just my 2 cents.
RE: Herman's system - Hermanh - 24-Jun-2014
(24-Jun-2014, 06:03)warpeon Wrote: Did you feel USB is superior to ethernet? I always had the impression ethernet is superior because TCP/IP protocol is 2-way and validates data sent, vs. USB is 1-direction, plus the ability to passing noise from computer to devialet. Would love to learn from your experiences.
I had USB dacs before and found ifi or aqvox to isolate the power supply for the USB makes things quieter. Just my 2 cents.B
In a basic system ethernet will sound better than a standard USB connetion.
In my system the USB connection is by far superior over the ethernet connection.
My audio PC is highly modded and so is it's USB connection.
The Paul Pang USB card is a modded USB 3 card that, in my basic understanding, among other things, reclocks the data to reduce jitter. In my system the USB card has a separate linear PSU (Teddy Pardo, 5V ) that is conncted to the USB card with an audio grade molex cable that improves things again.
RE: Herman's system - Hermanh - 24-Jun-2014
(24-Jun-2014, 06:49)Hermanh Wrote:(24-Jun-2014, 06:03)warpeon Wrote: Did you feel USB is superior to ethernet? I always had the impression ethernet is superior because TCP/IP protocol is 2-way and validates data sent, vs. USB is 1-direction, plus the ability to passing noise from computer to devialet. Would love to learn from your experiences.
I had USB dacs before and found ifi or aqvox to isolate the power supply for the USB makes things quieter. Just my 2 cents.B
In a basic system ethernet will sound better than a standard USB connetion.
In my system the USB connection is by far superior over the ethernet connection.
My audio PC is highly modded and so is it's USB connection.
The Paul Pang USB card is a modded USB 3 card that, in my basic understanding, among other things, reclocks the data to reduce jitter. In my system the USB card has a separate linear PSU (Teddy Pardo, 5V ) that is conncted to the USB card with an audio grade molex cable that improves things again.
The improvements over the basic ethernet connection are a wider and deeper soundstage, blacker background, more detail, more “air” around the instruments and a better life-like and spine tingling experience.
RE: Herman's system - Mka - 24-Jun-2014
Quote:In a basic system ethernet will sound better than a standard USB connetion.
In my system the USB connection is by far superior over the ethernet connection.
My audio PC is highly modded and so is it's USB connection.
The Paul Pang USB card is a modded USB 3 card that, in my basic understanding, among other things, reclocks the data to reduce jitter. In my system the USB card has a separate linear PSU (Teddy Pardo, 5V ) that is conncted to the USB card with an audio grade molex cable that improves things again.
USB cannot introduce jitter as the transmission is synchroniosly clocked by the receiver.
However Air via TCPIP uses UDP for the streaming, which doesn't include any proper handshaking, but air seems to use error correction on the application layer.
RE: Herman's system - Hermanh - 24-Jun-2014
(24-Jun-2014, 10:23)Mka Wrote:Quote:In a basic system ethernet will sound better than a standard USB connetion.
In my system the USB connection is by far superior over the ethernet connection.
My audio PC is highly modded and so is it's USB connection.
The Paul Pang USB card is a modded USB 3 card that, in my basic understanding, among other things, reclocks the data to reduce jitter. In my system the USB card has a separate linear PSU (Teddy Pardo, 5V ) that is conncted to the USB card with an audio grade molex cable that improves things again.
USB cannot introduce jitter as the transmission is synchroniosly clocked by the receiver.
However Air via TCPIP uses UDP for the streaming, which doesn't include any proper handshaking, but air seems to use error correction on the application layer.
Thanks for your reply Mka,
I'm no technician, hence the referral to "my basic understanding".
The simple fact is that the modded USB card sounds way better than the standard USB connection or the ethernet connection of the MB in my system.
RE: Herman's system - warpeon - 24-Jun-2014
(24-Jun-2014, 11:23)Hermanh Wrote:(24-Jun-2014, 10:23)Mka Wrote:Quote:In a basic system ethernet will sound better than a standard USB connetion.
In my system the USB connection is by far superior over the ethernet connection.
My audio PC is highly modded and so is it's USB connection.
The Paul Pang USB card is a modded USB 3 card that, in my basic understanding, among other things, reclocks the data to reduce jitter. In my system the USB card has a separate linear PSU (Teddy Pardo, 5V ) that is conncted to the USB card with an audio grade molex cable that improves things again.
USB cannot introduce jitter as the transmission is synchroniosly clocked by the receiver.
However Air via TCPIP uses UDP for the streaming, which doesn't include any proper handshaking, but air seems to use error correction on the application layer.
Thanks for your reply Mka,
I'm no technician, hence the referral to "my basic understanding".
The simple fact is that the modded USB card sounds way better than the standard USB connection or the ethernet connection of the MB in my system.
Thanks for your insights. unfortunately having a computer next to the devialet has been deemed unfashionable by wife. Will live with ethernet connection for the time being. I wonder if devialet will ever make an audio grade 5v and 12 v switching psu to replace all the linear psu out there.
RE: Herman's system - Hermanh - 24-Jun-2014
(24-Jun-2014, 11:57)warpeon Wrote:(24-Jun-2014, 11:23)Hermanh Wrote:(24-Jun-2014, 10:23)Mka Wrote:Quote:In a basic system ethernet will sound better than a standard USB connetion.
In my system the USB connection is by far superior over the ethernet connection.
My audio PC is highly modded and so is it's USB connection.
The Paul Pang USB card is a modded USB 3 card that, in my basic understanding, among other things, reclocks the data to reduce jitter. In my system the USB card has a separate linear PSU (Teddy Pardo, 5V ) that is conncted to the USB card with an audio grade molex cable that improves things again.
USB cannot introduce jitter as the transmission is synchroniosly clocked by the receiver.
However Air via TCPIP uses UDP for the streaming, which doesn't include any proper handshaking, but air seems to use error correction on the application layer.
Thanks for your reply Mka,
I'm no technician, hence the referral to "my basic understanding".
The simple fact is that the modded USB card sounds way better than the standard USB connection or the ethernet connection of the MB in my system.
Thanks for your insights. unfortunately having a computer next to the devialet has been deemed unfashionable by wife. Will live with ethernet connection for the time being. I wonder if devialet will ever make an audio grade 5v and 12 v switching psu to replace all the linear psu out there.
Having a classic computer case near the Devialet was no option for me either.
I have opted for a clear acrylic Mb tray instead of a closed case.
The motherboard is therefore fully exposed with every component of the computer clearly visible. I will try to post some pictures.