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RE: Original d'Atelier - JRIGGS - 08-Mar-2016 (08-Mar-2016, 21:06)Antoine Wrote: The Devialet is not an integrated class A pre-amp and class-D power-amp. Common misconception. True, but I didn't assume this. What I understand is that the class A component of the d'Atlier has been revamped (as has other things) so I expect it to be better as a pre-amp than the other Devialet products. Same goes for the class d component of the unit. So my question still stands: has anyone used it as a pre amp and does it out-perform over other Devialet units operating as a pre amp? RE: Original d'Atelier - Antoine - 08-Mar-2016 Then I ask what does the upgraded class A component have to do with the pre-amp functionality? Personally I think the Devialet is great only as a whole because of ADH. The DAC on it's own is nothing special and it's functionality is aged. Same goes for it's ethernet and USB inputs. The ethernet/WiFI inputs actually are quite worthless today because of the widespread issues with AIR. It's USB input, though better sounding than ethernet/WiFi when a good source is used, is bettered by it's conventional digital inputs. At least this has been my experience. If one can find a better power amp I'm sure you could also find a better pre-amp and DAC to go with it. RE: Original d'Atelier - IanG-UK - 08-Mar-2016 (05-Mar-2016, 18:51)JRIGGS Wrote:They are both 1m long.(09-Jan-2016, 17:59)IanG-UK Wrote:(09-Jan-2016, 16:55)warpeon Wrote: Jealous!! Mind sharing which model of the aq power cord it came with? How good of a pairing is aq with the d? The Carbon is phono plugs both ends (£72.50 new if one splits a stereo pair) and the Sydney is 3.5mm stereo plugs both ends (£149.00 new). The NRG X are both 1.75m long (£85.00 each new). RE: Original d'Atelier - Pim - 08-Mar-2016 (08-Mar-2016, 21:36)Antoine Wrote: Then I ask what does the upgraded class A component have to do with the pre-amp functionality? That's an interesting observation. The DAC could have been upgraded in the Od'A but they didn't. I wonder if there's much to be gained there. RE: Original d'Atelier - Antoine - 08-Mar-2016 The Devialet design is already several years old. Better SQ can probably be obtained with R2R ladder DAC's and higher quality low phase noise clocks and possibly even with newer DAC IC's like the new ESS or AKM's. Functionality wise there's 32 bit/384kHz PCM and native DSD64 up to DSD1024 DAC's (through USB) out there today with user selectable filtering. On the inputs side of course there's all sort of new functionality Airplay, Bluetooth APT-x, Roon, Ravenna/AES67, you name it. ADH and the 'magic wire' in close proximity are still Devialet's 'golden eggs' for high SQ though IMO. RE: Original d'Atelier - Nakatomi63 - 08-Mar-2016 (08-Mar-2016, 22:35)Pim van Vliet Wrote:(08-Mar-2016, 21:36)Antoine Wrote: Then I ask what does the upgraded class A component have to do with the pre-amp functionality? Perhaps a DAC with native 8x DSD decoding like the ifi iDSD micro can do. Also WI-FI AC could be welcome RE: Original d'Atelier - hk6230 - 09-Mar-2016 Ha ha, I think you are over-thinking (or over-wishing) on the PCM1792 DAC's capability. I think DSD64 is the limit for this DAC, unless they change to a different DAC like Antoine said. RE: Original d'Atelier - Nakatomi63 - 09-Mar-2016 (09-Mar-2016, 01:50)hk6230 Wrote: Ha ha, I think you are over-thinking (or over-wishing) on the PCM1792 DAC's capability. I think DSD64 is the limit for this DAC, unless they change to a different DAC like Antoine said. I just talk about it. Should justify clear progress , right? RE: Original d'Atelier - hk6230 - 09-Mar-2016 Hee Hee. I wish Devialet will offer us some hardware upgrade like DAC, wifi receptor, etc. Then, it will truly be future-proof. RE: Original d'Atelier - oelli - 09-Mar-2016 (09-Mar-2016, 01:50)hk6230 Wrote: Ha ha, I think you are over-thinking (or over-wishing) on the PCM1792 DAC's capability. I think DSD64 is the limit for this DAC, unless they change to a different DAC like Antoine said. Devialet does DSD to PCM conversion in software (DSP), not using the PCM1792 for this. The PCM1792 in the Devialet always gets 192kHz PCM. |