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RE: Sonore Streamers - Hifi_swlon - 17-May-2016
(17-May-2016, 09:08)thumb5 Wrote: (I'm desperately trying to resist the temptation to get one just to play with...not that I really need one, but it might be fun...so in a sense all these positive reports really aren't helping!)
Ian, I don't think I would have bought one on the verge of AIR3 being released (if I'd have known of course) unless I had specific needs that AIR didn't cover, like Linux, HQplayer etc etc. Not until I'd tested AIR to destruction anyway.
I suppose - assuming that AIR turns out to be robust on all current operating systems - that even if they sound the same, or AIR is better, the uRendu gives stability in that its not likely to stop working with your next OS update or whatever, or if new software comes out that you want to use with it (like HQPlayer) then its more likely to be added by Sonore (and no doubt more quickly) than by Devialet. That said Sonore are a tiny company so that may have its own issues down the line too.
Even if Devialet update the internal streaming board to be more capable, that's going to (a) cost you money, and (b) still rely on Devialet putting resources into adding (and bug fixing and keeping current) the various software modes. OK, they do appear to have come through with AIR finally as far as I can tell from the reports so far, but how long did it take, and how 'in the loop' were we about progress? What happens when iTunes gets updated, or the next OSX or Windows version comes out? If you have issues at any point who do you turn to and how responsive are they in their support? These are things floating around in my mind right now. I may just end up keeping both for the convenience of choice...
But it's a new toy whichever way you look at it....
RE: Sonore Streamers - mdconnelly - 17-May-2016
(17-May-2016, 08:58)Hifi_swlon Wrote:(17-May-2016, 01:10)mdconnelly Wrote: Have fun with it Steve. My guess is that by Wednesday or Thursday you'll really be amazed. I switched back to Air2 today after listening to the uRendu for the last 4 days straight. It still sounds good, but for some reason, someone put up a curtain between me and the speakers. Detail, presence and soundstage just aren't the same.
Mike
Thanks Mike.
I did wake up this morning and wonder if I should have held off posting last night, just incase it doesn't quite live up to expectation over the coming days if you know what I mean..... I left it playing silently overnight and today, so will have another go this evening. One thing that occurred to me was the impression a Chemical Brothers track played through the Aurender N100 left on me when I did a home demo quite a while ago - the detail was just amazing - and I don't know if we're in that league with the rendu although I certainly hope so. I'll try and dig out the track and see if I get a similar sensation.
The uRendu itself seemed warm at best this morning - I was expecting it to be quite hot based on some other reports of people using the 9V ifi. That said the D200 seemed a bit warmer to touch than usual. Maybe I just don't check it right in the top corners very often (its wall mounted), but they seemed a touch hotter. I have enabled wifi which is normally off, but I would presume that makes little temp difference.
I did notice the very slight lag of a network based adapter. Not a problem at all but its amazing how we get so used to something being 'instant'. At least Roon optimise the buffering for you so you know its as fast and efficient as it can be and don't have to set anything.
I've got a busy week and weekend ahead, but if I have time I'll do a comparison with AIR3 once things have settled. It means moving my Mac somewhere else (ironically, to upstairs - where it should have been when I first bought the Devialet) as I've only got 2 network ports in that corner of the lounge. Before I do that though I want to compare a few other things.
I've also got a strange urge to open it up and see what's inside - its such a nicely designed case but its so tiny and light its hard to believe there's anything much in there!
Mike - have you tried an AIR3 comparison? And as a reminder, are you using the ifi or a more exotic PS?
I don't have a Mac so I haven't a way to try AIR3. But yes, I'm using the iFi PS. It will be interesting to see when Devialet releases a Windows AIR3. And, of course, if it can match the SQ of the uRendu *and* be a stable solution. AIR instability was driving me a bit crazy.
I won't say much more about the uRendu and just let you immerse yourself in it.... Enjoy!
RE: Sonore Streamers - ismarketing - 17-May-2016
Update - the Highface 2 Jesus at Sonore suggested solved my issues with the Micro Rendu in Squeezelite mode. It's not an elegant fix, but it works. First night listening sounds a tad darker, but we'll see what the next few days bring. The Rendu is feeding the High Face which is connected to my 120 with an Orchid (Kimber) D-60 cable. Thanks for all the helpful suggestions on this issue.
RE: Sonore Streamers - Borgen - 17-May-2016
(16-May-2016, 16:25)ismarketing Wrote: Is anyone here feeding the Micro Rendu with Squeezelite into a Devialet w/o issues? Thanks.
I first had an issue with Tidal app not showing up in "My Apps" for mR as a player. After I upgraded to LMS-7.9 this problem went away. But both for LMS-7.2 and LMS-7.9 I have the issue that I need to restart the mR if the D250 has been asleep and started again. This issue is a blocker for me, hence I've installed RoonServer to test this out. The mR works well in Roon mode, the above issue with needing to restart mR after D250 power-on is not there in Roon mode.
As for sound quality, I have not had time to do a proper and longer test, but it is definately better than my previous player that was SqueezeLite on Volumio (highly tuned) on Cubox i4Pro with a high quality LPSU. For the mR I currently play with the iFi SMPS. The bass is tighter and more defined (bass guitar less smeared), better separation across the frequency band, more attack in the piano, I hear more and other details than before, I think there is more soul in some of the recordings. E.g. one of my old favourites from the 80s on LP never sounded good on my rip (or on Tidal for that matter), I always thought it was due to loss of dynamics on the CD. Until yesterday. When played on the mR the magic was back.
RE: Sonore Streamers - ismarketing - 18-May-2016
(17-May-2016, 20:04)Borgen Wrote:(16-May-2016, 16:25)ismarketing Wrote: Is anyone here feeding the Micro Rendu with Squeezelite into a Devialet w/o issues? Thanks.
Thanks Borgen. There is good discussion of this on the Sonore boards at Computer Audiophile. The designers have heard our issues and are investigating possible fixes.
RE: Sonore Streamers - Hifi_swlon - 18-May-2016
I've had a weird connection problem between the D and rendu today. Very annoying.
Roon keeps playing to the rendu when d is in standby so obviously no sound coming out. Ok, thats fine. But bringing the d back to life breaks/re-establishes connection but then it seems to be a bit confused and doesn't play.
I thought RoonReady was immune to this? Happy to work round it for a short while. If it were persistent that would be the end of my rendu journey.
I wonder if Devialet does something unique? This sort of thing seems to crop up mainly among Devialet users....
SQ is still great btw! Better than yesterday. Such a smooth sound. Exceeded expectations, but I do still need to do a bit of cross check for bias!! I just can't be bothered it's nice just to enjoy something good.
RE: Sonore Streamers - octaviars - 19-May-2016
(18-May-2016, 22:48)Hifi_swlon Wrote: I've had a weird connection problem between the D and rendu today. Very annoying.
Roon keeps playing to the rendu when d is in standby so obviously no sound coming out. Ok, thats fine. But bringing the d back to life breaks/re-establishes connection but then it seems to be a bit confused and doesn't play.
I thought RoonReady was immune to this? Happy to work round it for a short while. If it were persistent that would be the end of my rendu journey.
I wonder if Devialet does something unique? This sort of thing seems to crop up mainly among Devialet users....
SQ is still great btw! Better than yesterday. Such a smooth sound. Exceeded expectations, but I do still need to do a bit of cross check for bias!! I just can't be bothered it's nice just to enjoy something good.
I use DLNA and Bubble upnp app and that pauses the music autmaticly when my Devialet goes in to standby. Just have to hit play again and music continius to play were I left it.
Send an mail to Jesus at Sonore and let him take a look at it, he was very helpfull with my problem wen Tidal was skipping songs in my Bubble app.
sonorejr(at)gmail.com
RE: Sonore Streamers - Hifi_swlon - 19-May-2016
(19-May-2016, 05:46)octaviars Wrote: Send an mail to Jesus at Sonore and let him take a look at it, he was very helpfull with my problem wen Tidal was skipping songs in my Bubble app.
sonorejr(at)gmail.com
Done, thanks. Will report back.
RE: Sonore Streamers - Borgen - 19-May-2016
Does anyone use the USB hard connector with the optical input on Devialet being in use? I tried it yesterday, but the optical cable seem to prevent the USB hard connector from fitting (on D250). Does anyone have an optical cable that works for this setting, or any other recommendation?
RE: Sonore Streamers - Hifi_swlon - 19-May-2016
(19-May-2016, 10:02)Borgen Wrote: Does anyone use the USB hard connector with the optical input on Devialet being in use? I tried it yesterday, but the optical cable seem to prevent the USB hard connector from fitting (on D250). Does anyone have an optical cable that works for this setting, or any other recommendation?
I tried but it doesn't ft with mine- I'm using the optical with the Chromecast Audio (for internet radio).
There is another optical input I think, ands this would leave room as its over the other side, but its a different connector so I didn't bother - I don't want to get another cable just for that.
The µRendu would stick out much too far anyway with the hard adapter? Mine's wall mounted so Im not sure how it would work with the plan I've got for a device to hide all the cables....