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Singxer - Confused - 07-Jun-2016
Anyway, another forum member has advised me regarding good reports re Singxer products, allegedly better than Mutecs, see below:
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/2016-Singxer-SU-1-USB-digital-interface-with-XMOS-XU208-CPLD-DSD256-DOP/601461_32657105919.html
Also a USB to S/PDIF version getting rave reviews:
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/SINGXER-F-1-XMOS-USB-digital-interface-board-XU208-chip-High-end-U8-upgraded-version/601461_32648384788.html
Mutec beater for $179.99?? - Although I do think running AES is the best option for a Devialet
Does anyone know about this kit? Anyone tried with a Devialet?
RE: Singxer - octaviars - 07-Jun-2016
As you say I think a Mutec with AES output to Devialet is a better option, I am really close to buying a Mutec and run it between my microRendu and D400. Cabledyne USB and AES cables will connect them together.
RE: Singxer - Confused - 07-Jun-2016
(07-Jun-2016, 13:22)octaviars Wrote: As you say I think a Mutec with AES output to Devialet is a better option, I am really close to buying a Mutec and run it between my microRendu and D400. Cabledyne USB and AES cables will connect them together.
Maybe my post was not as clear as it could have been, this one does have AES output......
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/...05919.html
RE: Singxer - octaviars - 07-Jun-2016
(07-Jun-2016, 13:32)Confused Wrote:(07-Jun-2016, 13:22)octaviars Wrote: As you say I think a Mutec with AES output to Devialet is a better option, I am really close to buying a Mutec and run it between my microRendu and D400. Cabledyne USB and AES cables will connect them together.
Maybe my post was not as clear as it could have been, this one does have AES output......
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/...05919.html
Totally missed that to, will check in to that. But I was thinking of geting the Mutec from Thomann and they have 30 day trial period.
RE: Singxer - Antoine - 07-Jun-2016
The Singxer products are heavily discussed in a (long) topic on head-fi.org. This one: http://www.head-fi.org/t/803111/xmos-xu208-usb-bridges-the-latest-gen-has-arrived It's the same thread I got part of my inspiration from to perhaps try a Focusrite Rednet device for Dante which I discussed in my system topic.
The 'being better part' is a bit more nuanced. The topic starter (much "crazier" than I am in trying stuff
) has tried out the Mutec MC-3+ USB and has confirmed that the Mutec standalone is better than the Singxer F-1 (which is a DIY module for USB to S/PDIF conversion using the new XMOS chipset). He did prefer what he calls his "uber USB chain" over the Mutec. His "uber chain" is rather long containing a lot of USB gizmo's:
PC>PPA V2 USB card (TeraDak X1 - Nichicon HW caps)>Forza Twin Copper Split USB cable>iPurifier2>Startech LEX>BJC CAT6 UTP 550Mhz>Startech REX (with one Jitterbug - Breeze 24VDC LPS+DC iPurifer)>LH Labs 2G split USB cable (data only leg)>W4S Recovery(TeraDak LPS DC-30W+Cerious Graphene PC+ DC iPurifier)>Curious 200mm USB Link>F-1>AS Statement Silver SPDIF>APL DAC
PC: PC:iCore7 4790 - 12GB Ram - WIN10. El Fidelity SATA and CPU fan filter, PPA V2 PCIe USb card, Seasonic fanless high PSRR PS, etc...Software Foobar 2000V1.2.9 Dither on buffer 1000ms, JPlay 6.2 UltraStream (KS sourced), SoX upsampler to 192k alaising yes, quality Very High, Passband 95%, Phase Response 50% Linear. All Redbook burned from CD using EAC Secure Mode, Test and Copy Uncompressed, Accurip ISO verified, WAV files.
He's all into Dante though right now using his Rednet 3 with Mutec MC-3+ USB as a S/PDIF re-clocker.
He also keeps a 'score list' (remember one guy, one system, one opinion):
Quote:Singxer F-1 DC30W/Cerious/Recovery/DCi/Pur2/GB Lan 190 $180+$150+$250 +$200+$100+$100+$479
Singxer F-1 DC30W/Cerious/Recovery/DCiPur/ iPur2 170 $180 +$150 +$250 +$200 +$100 + $100
PUC2 Lite TeraDak DC30W/Cerious/Regen 135 $481 + $150 + $250 + Regen $175
DXIO Silver/TeraDak DC-30W/Cerious 130 $180 + $150 + $250
Singxer X-1 DC30W/Cerious/Recovery/DCiPur/iPur2 125 $59 + $250 +Recovery $200 + iPur2 $100
PUC2 Lite - USB power 110 $481
Breeze/Cerious Graph/WBT RCA Nexgen 109 Du modded $208 + CT GE $250
Breeze DU-U8 with Cerious Graphene 108 DU $168 + CT GE $250
Breeze DU-U8 (Talema version) 100 $168
Breeze DU-U8 (BingZi version) 95 $148
Hydra Z with LPS 92 Z $700 + $150 TeraDak DC30W
Melodious MX-U8 (upgraded caps) 85 $260
Melodious MX-U8 (stock) 81 $247
Gustard U12 (upgraded caps) 76 $175
Gustard U12 stock 72 $160
iDAC DAC2 (used as a DDC) 65 $479
Musiland USB3.0 US Dragon 65 $165
M2Tech EVO with LPS 60 EVO $600 + Acopian LPS $280
Audiophileo 2 USB Power 50 $495
M2Tech Hiface 40 $149
To which he's later added:
240 Rednet 3 with the Mutec MC-3+ USB as S/PDIF re-clocker
210-220 Rednet 3
150 Mutec MC-3 USB with Cerious Graphene Extreme power cord and a separate PB4X4Pro running from the aR1p
RE: Singxer - Antoine - 07-Jun-2016
I love reading what this guy (rb2013) and those surrounding him on head-fi write but he himself can at times be quite dismissive of stuff he hasn't tried yet, largely based on preconceptions. In the act he can spread misinformation as well. For example calling the microRendu a uPnP renderer while it is so much more.
RE: Singxer - Confused - 07-Jun-2016
(07-Jun-2016, 13:46)octaviars Wrote:(07-Jun-2016, 13:32)Confused Wrote:(07-Jun-2016, 13:22)octaviars Wrote: As you say I think a Mutec with AES output to Devialet is a better option, I am really close to buying a Mutec and run it between my microRendu and D400. Cabledyne USB and AES cables will connect them together.
Maybe my post was not as clear as it could have been, this one does have AES output......
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/...05919.html
Totally missed that to, will check in to that. But I was thinking of geting the Mutec from Thomann and they have 30 day trial period.
I have exactly the same plan!
Singxer - nicoludio - 07-Jun-2016
(07-Jun-2016, 13:12)Confused Wrote: Anyway, another forum member has advised me regarding good reports re Singxer products, allegedly better than Mutecs, see below:
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/2016-Singxer-SU-1-USB-digital-interface-with-XMOS-XU208-CPLD-DSD256-DOP/601461_32657105919.html
Always happy to add to the confusion
Singxer - nicoludio - 07-Jun-2016
Yes, rb2013's adventures are quite informative, especially his willingness to explore the frontiers. Never heard of Singxer or Rednet till his posts.
Interestingly, I have communicated with another Mutec MC3+ USB owner on another forum.
He has modified the Mutec to accept an LPS and says that "As a USB to SPDIF convertor the F1 just delivers much more in every way compared to the [modified] Mutec ..."
RE: Singxer - Antoine - 07-Jun-2016
(07-Jun-2016, 14:24)nicoludio Wrote: Yes, rb2013's adventures are quite informative, especially his willingness to explore the frontiers. Never heard of Singxer or Rednet till his posts.
Interestingly, I have communicated with another Mutec MC3+ USB owner on another forum.
He has modified the Mutec to accept an LPS and says that "As a USB to SPDIF convertor the F1 just delivers much more in every way compared to the [modified] Mutec ..."
I'm guessing that other Mutec owner is 'Sligolad'!
I've read a similar thing from his hand. The Mutec could still prove worthwile though in the next "hit product" the Focusrite Rednet series. I would love these guys to test it with a microRendu though, it may be a great surprise for them.I just wrote to Confused in response to a PM that things are going so fast, today's best may as well no longer be so tomorrow. So anyone 'investing' in this type of gear should be prepared for that.