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Are phantoms/dialog reliable now? - Vannibombonato - 04-Dec-2016

Dear all,
I've been on the fence for almost a year now, and have not yet purchased a couple of phantoms as I had the clear feeling software stability just was not there.


Its months since I have last checked, is the situation better now? I would be using a simple stereo setup for the phantoms and they would need to be in wifi, just one room: can you hear a symphony withou worrying of clicks and stops?

Thanks,

Vanni


RE: Are phantoms/dialog reliable now? - streamy - 04-Dec-2016

No clicks yes, when you have a standard power installation and can use the integrated PLC or a ethernet network. No stops unfortunately no, the system is still not able to play gapless. So after each track you get a 0.5s stop and play. This could be disturbing when listening to classical music or live performances. Else the Phantoms can run 24/7 without any problem, rock solid! I enjoy 3 Phantoms since March 2015. Initial problems have been ironed out. Spark still could benefit from improved features that would help you organize your libraries, provide infos about albums, artists etc., let you see and search the metafile information etc. For all that you can use other services like Spotify or Roon and connect streamers to the optical inputs of Phantom or Dialog.Like this you can als get gapless, e.g with a Raspberry Pi.


RE: Are phantoms/dialog reliable now? - ragwo - 04-Dec-2016

Go for it! Smile
The stability is really good, I only have drop outs if streaming music and saturating my very narrow broadband connection with uploads. Devialet's Xmas offer is good, a free Dialog with Airplay compatibility and a free Apple TV. I would have bought a pair of Gold's, they sound better than the Silver and the background noise is significantly reduced.


RE: Are phantoms/dialog reliable now? - Johnnydev - 04-Dec-2016

Go for it, no problems at all overhere with two phantoms and dialog on the same powerblock and in the same room

Buy them in december now and you have christmas discount and 45 days trail


RE: Are phantoms/dialog reliable now? - cloudkicker - 04-Dec-2016

If you were on the fence, the Christmas offer makes it no brainer. Airplay in the new Dialog gives an integrated way to bypass Spark until its issues are resolved.


RE: Are phantoms/dialog reliable now? - Johnnydev - 04-Dec-2016

(04-Dec-2016, 16:11)cloudkicker Wrote: If you were on the fence, the Christmas offer makes it no brainer. Airplay in the new Dialog gives an integrated way to bypass Spark until its issues are resolved.

Qobuz via spark sounds great!


RE: Are phantoms/dialog reliable now? - MountainGuy - 05-Dec-2016

It's been a dramatic improvement for me. WIFI, 25 feet away from dialog, two rooms set up, solid stable. A few drop outs a day - but only for less than a second. I don't have a problem with that. Very very impressed by Devialet's commitment to improving. Of course, there is still room to improve further including at the top of my list, a wish for EQ.


RE: Are phantoms/dialog reliable now? - Plainview - 08-Dec-2016

Rock solid for me now.
Plays solidly over wifi or streaming Tidal with Spark for hours every day, zero drop outs.


RE: Are phantoms/dialog reliable now? - angenet - 08-Dec-2016

(08-Dec-2016, 15:13)Plainview Wrote: Rock solid for me now.
Plays solidly over wifi or streaming Tidal with Spark for hours every day, zero drop outs.

Unfortunately

Can't confirm ... Frequent drop and disconnection from Network...

Now considering to have several Pi 3 with hifiberry and use Roon for group play...


RE: Are phantoms/dialog reliable now? - Plainview - 09-Dec-2016

(08-Dec-2016, 15:41)angenet Wrote:
(08-Dec-2016, 15:13)Plainview Wrote: Rock solid for me now.
Plays solidly over wifi or streaming Tidal with Spark for hours every day, zero drop outs.

Unfortunately

Can't confirm ... Frequent drop and disconnection from Network...

Now considering to have several Pi 3 with hifiberry and use Roon for group play...


I wonder does your setup of 5 Phantoms cause the Dialog to struggle more....
considering its a hot plate trying to deal with 2 Phantoms, I can imagine 5 is a major struggle!