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RE: Companion LINK failure with Roon AIR - kerkhoffd - 08-Sep-2017
Shame the unplugging trick doesn't work in your setup btw.
RE: Companion LINK failure with Roon AIR - audio_engr - 08-Sep-2017
(08-Sep-2017, 13:18)kerkhoffd Wrote: My brother uses one too. Like you inbetween master and companion, and has no trouble. His cable in my setup works too,
This is interesting ... Is it a RCA to AES termination ?
RE: Companion LINK failure with Roon AIR - GuillaumeB - 08-Sep-2017
The issues I had were very intermittent and only happened with the hybrid cables, although not with the Audioprana one.
I didn't pay much attention to the sample rate of the material, perhaps there was a link there?
I may revisit this soon and report back. It's odd that a cable could work one minute and not the next making me think there might be a problem at the Devialet end.
Guillaume
RE: Companion LINK failure with Roon AIR - thumb5 - 08-Sep-2017
If the cable works at lower sample rates but doesn't work (reliably) at higher sample rates, it sounds to me as though the cable might be causing signal integrity problems that stop the Dev's receiver working properly. At least, I'd suspect the cable is more likely to be pushing things out of spec than the Devialet itself.
RE: Companion LINK failure with Roon AIR - kerkhoffd - 08-Sep-2017
(08-Sep-2017, 17:58)audio_engr Wrote:(08-Sep-2017, 13:18)kerkhoffd Wrote: My brother uses one too. Like you inbetween master and companion, and has no trouble. His cable in my setup works too,
This is interesting ... Is it a RCA to AES termination ?
Yes it is.
RE: Companion LINK failure with Roon AIR - Pim - 09-Sep-2017
(08-Sep-2017, 20:02)thumb5 Wrote: If the cable works at lower sample rates but doesn't work (reliably) at higher sample rates, it sounds to me as though the cable might be causing signal integrity problems that stop the Dev's receiver working properly. At least, I'd suspect the cable is more likely to be pushing things out of spec than the Devialet itself.
That's what I was thinking too. If I were a cable manufacturer and my cables weren't working 100% of the time I would be quite embarrassed. After all, the higher end the cable is, the better it should let the signal through. If it makes the signal worse, then how can the cable be 'better'?
RE: Companion LINK failure with Roon AIR - audio_engr - 09-Sep-2017
(08-Sep-2017, 22:12)kerkhoffd Wrote:(08-Sep-2017, 17:58)audio_engr Wrote:(08-Sep-2017, 13:18)kerkhoffd Wrote: My brother uses one too. Like you inbetween master and companion, and has no trouble. His cable in my setup works too,
This is interesting ... Is it a RCA to AES termination ?
Yes it is.
Now that I see that the AQ Diamond RCA-AES works, the most important question that crops to my mind is "whether that working Diamond is a 75-ohm or a 110-ohm cable ?"
By the way, could I request you if you could ask your brother to check that 24/192 signals are perfectly ok with it or not ? Thanks in advance !!
RE: Companion LINK failure with Roon AIR - audio_engr - 09-Sep-2017
(09-Sep-2017, 03:01)Pim van Vliet Wrote:(08-Sep-2017, 20:02)thumb5 Wrote: If the cable works at lower sample rates but doesn't work (reliably) at higher sample rates, it sounds to me as though the cable might be causing signal integrity problems that stop the Dev's receiver working properly. At least, I'd suspect the cable is more likely to be pushing things out of spec than the Devialet itself.
That's what I was thinking too. If I were a cable manufacturer and my cables weren't working 100% of the time I would be quite embarrassed. After all, the higher end the cable is, the better it should let the signal through. If it makes the signal worse, then how can the cable be 'better'?
It is sad that a stellar manufacturer like AQ with a robust & extremely successful product like "Diamond" thats been in existence since 1993 (those days as X2 & X3) doesn't have clarity towards correct impedance selection (75 or 110) when they cater for Devialet owners ...
As reported by "kerrhoffd", its functioning perfectly ...
RE: Companion LINK failure with Roon AIR - kerkhoffd - 09-Sep-2017
(09-Sep-2017, 09:42)audio_engr Wrote:(09-Sep-2017, 03:01)Pim van Vliet Wrote:(08-Sep-2017, 20:02)thumb5 Wrote: If the cable works at lower sample rates but doesn't work (reliably) at higher sample rates, it sounds to me as though the cable might be causing signal integrity problems that stop the Dev's receiver working properly. At least, I'd suspect the cable is more likely to be pushing things out of spec than the Devialet itself.
That's what I was thinking too. If I were a cable manufacturer and my cables weren't working 100% of the time I would be quite embarrassed. After all, the higher end the cable is, the better it should let the signal through. If it makes the signal worse, then how can the cable be 'better'?
It is sad that a stellar manufacturer like AQ with a robust & extremely successful product like "Diamond" thats been in existence since 1993 (those days as X2 & X3) doesn't have clarity towards correct impedance selection (75 or 110) when they cater for Devialet owners ...
As reported by "kerrhoffd", its functioning perfectly ...
Will be visiting him tomorrow and will check for you ofcourse. Listened to his set for prolonged time, but will make sure I will channel back his experience to you. As my brother ofcourse has the most hours of listening done. I know his Diamond uses a 75 Ohm cable which is terminated RCA-AES.
RE: Companion LINK failure with Roon AIR - audio_engr - 10-Sep-2017
(09-Sep-2017, 20:26)kerkhoffd Wrote:(09-Sep-2017, 09:42)audio_engr Wrote:(09-Sep-2017, 03:01)Pim van Vliet Wrote: That's what I was thinking too. If I were a cable manufacturer and my cables weren't working 100% of the time I would be quite embarrassed. After all, the higher end the cable is, the better it should let the signal through. If it makes the signal worse, then how can the cable be 'better'?
It is sad that a stellar manufacturer like AQ with a robust & extremely successful product like "Diamond" thats been in existence since 1993 (those days as X2 & X3) doesn't have clarity towards correct impedance selection (75 or 110) when they cater for Devialet owners ...
As reported by "kerrhoffd", its functioning perfectly ...
Will be visiting him tomorrow and will check for you ofcourse. Listened to his set for prolonged time, but will make sure I will channel back his experience to you. As my brother ofcourse has the most hours of listening done. I know his Diamond uses a 75 Ohm cable which is terminated RCA-AES.
Thank you in advance ... One of the most important news you have already given here (marked in Red).