(11-Jan-2018, 22:21)Flashman Wrote: All,

Here's a link to an enjoyable article from The New Yorker on audiophilia, our never-ending quest, as the author puts it.  Devialet is mentioned but the author only heard the Phantom.  He also covers MQA, vinyl and puts a bit of audio history in there.  Fun read.

Cheers, Flashman

(14-Jan-2018, 09:57)streamy Wrote:

(11-Jan-2018, 22:21)Flashman Wrote: All,

Here's a link to an enjoyable article from The New Yorker on audiophilia, our never-ending quest, as the author puts it.  Devialet is mentioned but the author only heard the Phantom.  He also covers MQA, vinyl and puts a bit of audio history in there.  Fun read.

Cheers, Flashman

And apparently, he only heard the Phantoms only in a glass box (for sure not an environment to audition Hifi). As such his statements with respect to the Gold Phantoms are sort of uninformed and incompetent.

(14-Jan-2018, 14:15)Teliaved Wrote: The glassbox seems to me as an effective ways of increasing the number of sales points where people can learn about Devialet existence and about the Phantoms. The real test should be at home during the 45 days trial period

(14-Jan-2018, 17:02)Jean-Marie Wrote:

(14-Jan-2018, 14:15)Teliaved Wrote: The glassbox seems to me as an effective ways of increasing the number of sales points where people can learn about Devialet existence and about the Phantoms. The real test should be at home during the 45 days trial period

Fully agreed! This or at a dealer that sets them up properly. 

Jean-Marie

(14-Jan-2018, 17:52)GuillaumeB Wrote:

(14-Jan-2018, 17:02)Jean-Marie Wrote:

(14-Jan-2018, 14:15)Teliaved Wrote: The glassbox seems to me as an effective ways of increasing the number of sales points where people can learn about Devialet existence and about the Phantoms. The real test should be at home during the 45 days trial period

Fully agreed! This or at a dealer that sets them up properly. 

Jean-Marie

Of course this is the ideal scenario.

However for some the first impressions of the Phantom will be disappointing due to the source material often being played and the poor acoustic environment they are displayed in. I have heard countless examples of the Phantoms being driven to ear splitting volumes, the emphasis seems to be on shock and awe (bass and volume) rather than music. In fact I can name a few incidents myself.

I wonder what proportion of Phantoms are sold by dealers. Aren't many now sold direct and/or through retailers such as the Apple Store? I wonder how many people have their phantoms set up less than optimally. Have Devialet actually produced a guide to in room placement for the Phantoms?

Guillaume

(14-Jan-2018, 18:09)Jean-Marie Wrote:

(14-Jan-2018, 17:52)GuillaumeB Wrote:

(14-Jan-2018, 17:02)Jean-Marie Wrote: Fully agreed! This or at a dealer that sets them up properly. 

Jean-Marie

Of course this is the ideal scenario.

However for some the first impressions of the Phantom will be disappointing due to the source material often being played and the poor acoustic environment they are displayed in. I have heard countless examples of the Phantoms being driven to ear splitting volumes, the emphasis seems to be on shock and awe (bass and volume) rather than music. In fact I can name a few incidents myself.

I wonder what proportion of Phantoms are sold by dealers. Aren't many now sold direct and/or through retailers such as the Apple Store? I wonder how many people have their phantoms set up less than optimally. Have Devialet actually produced a guide to in room placement for the Phantoms?

Guillaume

I have no idea. 
I suspect that the bass heavy and high volume type of demo is geared towards an other type of client than us. I’m sure that if walk in to listen to phantoms we will come with our own music and will also take control of the volume. (For instance, for my personal test, one of the best demonstration of a pair of Gold is using the first movement of the 6th symphony for pipe Organ from Charles-Marie Widor and certainly not what they use normally, but I can also understand that it is not to everyone’s taste  )

Jean-Marie