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RE: A Confused streaming system - Mutec / SOtM Ultra - Spindrift - 11-Feb-2018
Hi Confused -
Congrats on your new components!
I noticed you mentioned some rg216 cables for the clock cables. Any thoughts on choices? I was using very basic hosa cable and recently switched to the Pasternak rg216 product and I think it made a notice noticeable difference in space between intstruments and recording space etc. .
Cheers
RE: A Confused streaming system - Mutec / SOtM Ultra - SwissBear - 12-Feb-2018
Hi Confused,
Congrats on your new setup. We will have very close (not to say identical, to the extent of the cables...) configurations and I sincerely hope that you will enjoy yours as much as I am enjoying mine.
After having done thorough listening tests over the last couple of days following some interaction with Devialet dev/support team, I have not been able to convince myself that any other configuration could produce better results than the one you have just purchased.
So I sincerely hope you will appreciate it. I therefore wish you the best of luck in this venture.
With kind regards
RE: A Confused streaming system - Mutec / SOtM Ultra - Confused - 12-Feb-2018
(11-Feb-2018, 16:35)Spindrift Wrote: Hi Confused -
Congrats on your new components!
I noticed you mentioned some rg216 cables for the clock cables. Any thoughts on choices? I was using very basic hosa cable and recently switched to the Pasternak rg216 product and I think it made a notice noticeable difference in space between intstruments and recording space etc. .
Cheers
There is a lot of interesting information regarding clock cables on Computer Audiophile at the moment. One of the more interesting suggestions is the use of 12G-SDI 4K UHD cables, the claim being that they are very low cost but have higher specifications than some of the expensive 'audiophile' cables.
https://www.computeraudiophile.com/forums/topic/31857-mutec-ref-10-masterclock/?page=24
For me, I essentially did the same thing as @SwissBear, that is I noticed that the recommendation in the Mutec REF10 manual is to use RG216/U cables, and as these are relatively low cost they seamed the obvious choice.
I have bought RG216 cables in both 12" and 24" length (30cm / 60cm). One thing I plan to try is comparing the shorter cable to the longer cable between the REF10 and MC3+USB, just to see if there is any audible difference. If I can hear a difference, this may lead to me trying many things.
RE: A Confused streaming system - Mutec / SOtM Ultra - Confused - 12-Feb-2018
(12-Feb-2018, 00:55)SwissBear Wrote: Hi Confused,You are too modest @SwissBear, you of course have a LPSU modified MC3+USB, plus the wonderful and elusive Paul Hynes SR7.
Congrats on your new setup. We will have very close (not to say identical, to the extent of the cables...) configurations and I sincerely hope that you will enjoy yours as much as I am enjoying mine.
After having done thorough listening tests over the last couple of days following some interaction with Devialet dev/support team, I have not been able to convince myself that any other configuration could produce better results than the one you have just purchased.
So I sincerely hope you will appreciate it. I therefore wish you the best of luck in this venture.
With kind regards
RE: A Confused streaming system - Mutec / SOtM Ultra - Stino - 12-Feb-2018
(12-Feb-2018, 00:55)SwissBear Wrote: Hi Confused,
Congrats on your new setup. We will have very close (not to say identical, to the extent of the cables...) configurations and I sincerely hope that you will enjoy yours as much as I am enjoying mine.
After having done thorough listening tests over the last couple of days following some interaction with Devialet dev/support team, I have not been able to convince myself that any other configuration could produce better results than the one you have just purchased.
So I sincerely hope you will appreciate it. I therefore wish you the best of luck in this venture.
With kind regards
The Sforzato DSP-030EX music player and Sforzato PMC-02EX world clock generator could be an improvement. Would be very interesting to know whether someone can comment on the performance of these machines. I heart many superlatives about them.
RE: A Confused streaming system - Mutec / SOtM Ultra - ogs - 13-Feb-2018
Hi @Stino beautiful units! Looks expensive. Maybe this will be the year of the 10MHz clock? It is 'word clock' by the way, not world...
RE: A Confused streaming system - Mutec / SOtM Ultra - Confused - 13-Feb-2018
I did see a comparison of clock specifications on Computer Audiophile a while back, the best was the Sforzato PMC-01 BVA clock. So not just a thing of beauty, it performs too.
See link for more:
https://www.computeraudiophile.com/forums/topic/27650-cybershaft-rubidium-clocklow-priced-option/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-581390
It is interesting to compare the Sforzato PMC-01 BVA ($33k) specifications to those for the Mutec REF10 (Euro 3.5k)
Sforzato Phase noise:
1Hz -118dBc/Hz
10Hz -137dBc/Hz
100Hz -143dBc/Hz
Calculated RMS phase jitter 10Hz - 100Hz = 34fs
Mutec REF 10 Phase noise
1Hz -116dBc/Hz
10Hz -142dBc/Hz
100Hz -155dBc/Hz
N,B. With Phase Noise figures, basically the lower the number (the bigger the minus number, if you like) the better.
Mutec Jitter spec per the graph below:
So as you can see, the Mutec REF10 does not have the Sforzato's pretty case, but it does hold it's own in terms of raw performance. Plus, relative to the PMC-01 it is 30K less expensive.
A Confused streaming system - Mutec / SOtM Ultra - Fragoulisnaval - 13-Feb-2018
What about esoteric clocks?
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RE: A Confused streaming system - Mutec / SOtM Ultra - Confused - 13-Feb-2018
(13-Feb-2018, 11:34)Fragoulisnaval Wrote: What about esoteric clocks?
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The comparative specifications for Esoteric G-01 can be found here:
https://www.computeraudiophile.com/forums/topic/27650-cybershaft-rubidium-clocklow-priced-option/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-581390
A Confused streaming system - Mutec / SOtM Ultra - Fragoulisnaval - 13-Feb-2018
You are the man!
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