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Sound quality - Roon RAAT vs Roon Air - bernardl - 30-May-2019

Hi guys,

Since it has been a few months with the RAAT support, I was wondering about your views regarding the sound quality in RAAT mode vs Air mode through Roon.

My personal opinion is that the sound through Air + Roon is significantly more refined, transparent,... that the one through Raat. And I have therefore moved back to that.

My system is very revealing with Wilson Benech speakers connected through Cord Sarum T speaker cables.

Cheers,
Bernard


RE: Sound quality - Roon RAAT vs Roon Air - David A - 30-May-2019

I also prefer RAAT but there is a poll thread on the issue that you may like to read. There's quite a few who prefer AIR.

Are you using ethernet or wifi to connect with RAAT? There's also quite a few people who are having problems with dropouts and other issues with a gigabit speed ethernet connection. The problem doesn't occur with a 100 MBPS ethernet connection to the Devialet or if you connect by wifi, it seems to only occur with gigabit speed wired connections and not for all people. Both Devialet and Roon have been advised of the issue but despite the fact that it's now over 3 months since we got the Roon Ready update neither Devialet or Roon have come up with a fix or a statement about what the issue is. This problem also does not occur with AIR.


RE: Sound quality - Roon RAAT vs Roon Air - ogs - 30-May-2019

(30-May-2019, 02:14)bernardl Wrote: Hi guys,

Since it has been a few months with the RAAT support, I was wondering about your views regarding the sound quality in RAAT mode vs Air mode through Roon.

My personal opinion is that the sound through Air + Roon is significantly more refined, transparent,... that the one through Raat. And I have therefore moved back to that.

My system is very revealing with Wilson Benech speakers connected through Cord Sarum T speaker cables.

Cheers,
Bernard

I agree with you, AIR is better than RAAT at the moment (I just added my vote to the poll David mentioned)


RE: Sound quality - Roon RAAT vs Roon Air - Antoine - 30-May-2019

The poll mentioned is here: https://devialetchat.com/Thread-Which-sounds-best-Roon-RAAT-or-Roon-Integrated-AIR


RE: Sound quality - Roon RAAT vs Roon Air - bernardl - 03-Jun-2019

Thanks!


RE: Sound quality - Roon RAAT vs Roon Air - DavidE - 29-Jul-2019

I wonder if the differences in sound quality is due to the listener's preferences or the different systems?


RE: Sound quality - Roon RAAT vs Roon Air - ogs - 30-Jul-2019

(29-Jul-2019, 17:51)DavidE Wrote: I wonder if the differences in sound quality is due to the listener's preferences or the different systems?
It clearly varies with system, I'm not so sure about preferences. In my setup the difference is quite clear in favor of AIR. So much in fact that I guess one who prefer RAAT in his/her system would find AIR better in mine.


RE: Sound quality - Roon RAAT vs Roon Air - Saint0 - 26-Jul-2021

I just updated to Roon 1.8, and have been having audio dropout issues (streaming radio, Tidal and local library files). It starts around 5 to 10 mins into play, once it started it keeps repeating every few minutes, sometimes multiple dropouts within a song, which makes it unusable.

However, there's no dropout issues with Meridian M218 and Devialet AIR endpoints which are on the same network. It's strange since Devialet AIR works on the same device, which points to Roon 1.8 RAAT protocol issues with Devialet "Roon Ready" endpoint. Has anyone noticed the same problem?


RE: Sound quality - Roon RAAT vs Roon Air - daniel.avasilichioaei - 27-Jul-2021

The same here: AIR is better than RAAT.


RE: Sound quality - Roon RAAT vs Roon Air - pvanosta - 27-Jul-2021

(26-Jul-2021, 22:09)Saint0 Wrote: I just updated to Roon 1.8, and have been having audio dropout issues (streaming radio, Tidal and local library files). It starts around 5 to 10 mins into play, once it started it keeps repeating every few minutes, sometimes multiple dropouts within a song, which makes it unusable.

However, there's no dropout issues with Meridian M218 and Devialet AIR endpoints which are on the same network. It's strange since Devialet AIR works on the same device, which points to Roon 1.8 RAAT protocol issues with Devialet "Roon Ready" endpoint. Has anyone noticed the same problem?

What is your network configuration/setup? Ever since the last Devialet firmware, I have had zero dropouts using RAAT, regardless of file size, source (NUC/NAS or NUC/Qobuz) or format.
Everything inĀ  my network is wired and in the same room as my main system. Everything is on a single Gigabit switch. My second system (home office) is 2 floors up and connected via Mesh wifi6. Also there zero dropouts even with DSD256 files. Both Roon and Devialet are sensitive to network issues, even if nothing else on your network indicates problems. Endless posts on the Roon support forum all end up being about network issues (Roon not liking a particular configuration or a particular piece of hardware in the LAN setup).
If at all possible, run a wired setup in your LAN and check for dropouts. If you still get them, try a different switch (nothing fancy - no need for so-called audiophile network switches, which do nothing anyway).