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RE: Sound quality - Roon RAAT vs Roon Air - bernardl - 30-Sep-2021 (30-Sep-2021, 10:37)Delija Wrote: I find UPnP better than Roon AIR in exactly the same parameters - clarity and transparency. No. RE: Sound quality - Roon RAAT vs Roon Air - Delija - 01-Oct-2021 It would be very nice to hear your opinion about UPnP and comparison with other sources. I think it's pretty easy to install MinimServer on your media server - or some other UPnP server which has a version for Linux. RE: Sound quality - Roon RAAT vs Roon Air - Confused - 03-Oct-2021 I tried a little experiment this morning, I tried making REW measurements with Roon RAAT and then with Roon integrated AIR. Not much in it from a pure measurement point of view, see below. Although personally I would not dismiss the comments from those who hear a difference. I know from my own past experiences, such as when adding the Mutec MC3+USB, that you can get cleaner more accurate sounding bass, which subjectively may initially sound like "less" bass, but longer term listening reveals itself simply as better bass. There are many reports that claim that low jitter results in subjectively cleaner bass. Maybe there is something like this going on between the RAAT and AIR protocols? Of course, considering that the Devialet is buffering and responsible for the audio clock with both the AIR and RAAT protocols, it is difficult to think of a technical explanation for this, they should sound identical. Another one for the "bits are bits" debate. RE: Sound quality - Roon RAAT vs Roon Air - Delija - 03-Oct-2021 There is one very easy way to say whether the bass is good. When you listen to your favorite bass-heavy music pretty loud in the system with balanced bass (with the rest of the FR) - if you want to lower the volume because bass is somewhat "fatiguing" - it's not good. If you want more bass and want to hear it louder - it's good. RE: Sound quality - Roon RAAT vs Roon Air - Jean-Marie - 03-Oct-2021 (03-Oct-2021, 12:47)Confused Wrote: […] As much as a “bits are bits” I believe it is also for the “We don’t only listen with our ears but also with our brain”. And whatever makes the experience more enjoyable for you is fair game as long as you can afford it. Jean-Marie RE: Sound quality - Roon RAAT vs Roon Air - Delija - 03-Oct-2021 @Confused For this purpose it's ok - but to show valid FR, vertical scale in your graph should start at no lower than 40 dB. This way the FR appears to be much flatter than it really is. RE: Sound quality - Roon RAAT vs Roon Air - markush - 03-Oct-2021 Having a high-end setup and and also quite treated room acoustics - it’s really astonishing that there is a noticeable difference between RAAT ans AIR. I wonder if the digital processing within the Devialet could be any different as AIR is the „native protocol“ and the processing might be optimized for it. RE: Sound quality - Roon RAAT vs Roon Air - Saint0 - 11-Oct-2021 (29-Sep-2021, 08:05)David A Wrote:(28-Sep-2021, 08:38)Saint0 Wrote: … I have no RAAT dropout issues after updated to the latest Roon 1.8 (831), and I'm using GigE, 1000Mb/s Ethernet switch. The dropout issues is only with Roon 1.8 earlier versions. There's no dropouts with the previous Roon 1.7 either. It has nothing to do with Devialet or the Ethernet switch based on my observation. I understand how Ethernet works, and I agree Roon's theory of PCM bit rate causing dropouts makes no sense. Anyway, the good news is Roon 1.8 (831) fixed the dropout issues. I'll just switch to AIR or use my Meridian 218 endpoint if the next Roon update breaks it again. RE: Sound quality - Roon RAAT vs Roon Air - RvdH - 03-Dec-2021 “…no need for so-called audiophile network switches, which do nothing anyway).” I have to kindly disagree with you on that. RE: Sound quality - Roon RAAT vs Roon Air - markush - 05-Dec-2021 Yes the EtherRegen very much makes a difference for example. But still there is a difference between RAAT and AIR. |