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RE: Audio Science Review of Expert 200. - petrik - 05-Apr-2020 (05-Apr-2020, 11:09)Confused Wrote:(01-Apr-2020, 05:27)sam1000 Wrote:(01-Apr-2020, 01:33)whatmore Wrote: Amir has reached out to Devialet for a response. Thank you for sharing the links. There seems to be some significant differences between the Expert 170 and the D-Premier measurements, but I don't know are the results comparable. Any ideas what do those "FAIL" parts mean? There are lots of those in the Expert 170 measurements, but only one in D-Premier. I'm just thinking what might explain the differences. Do these devices really just perform differently, or could for example differences in settings / configuration explain at least part of the results? I'm not sure did the D-Premier have features like SAM, DPM, or ICM which the Expert 170 did have. Audio Science Review of Expert 200. - PeppaPig - 05-Apr-2020 I really don’t like this guy and I question his intention! He is reviewing a few years old discontinued product at this moment where the Pro is easily to get now. Why? And if his intention has problem how can I trust his review. Like put a review online today for a BMW 320i that made in 2016??? I think he is on purposely put down Devialet. RE: Audio Science Review of Expert 200. - Jean-Marie - 05-Apr-2020 (05-Apr-2020, 14:10)PeppaPig Wrote: I really don’t like this guy and I question his intention!I'm not so much interested into what he found nor not. I am more interested into understanding what members of this forum have been experiencing and measuring. Jean-Marie RE: Audio Science Review of Expert 200. - mdconnelly - 05-Apr-2020 (05-Apr-2020, 15:45)Jean-Marie Wrote:(05-Apr-2020, 14:10)PeppaPig Wrote: I really don’t like this guy and I question his intention!I'm not so much interested into what he found nor not. I won't pretend to have the necessary equipment nor expertise to perform such tests. But I do have a healthy pair of ears which is what led to me buy my first D200 4+ years ago, replace with a 220 Pro and then add a 2nd for a 440. To my years, the sound quality blew away the fairly expensive separate components I had been using up to that point. Now, perhaps I have faulty ears as well (or perhaps I just don't have the necessary expertise to use them correctly ;-). But I do know that my 440 Pro keeps me smiling late at night. As to Amir's motivation to test the D200 that he was loaned.... haven't a clue. But it certainly did stir up a hornet's nest. Hmmm.... RE: Audio Science Review of Expert 200. - Jean-Marie - 05-Apr-2020 (05-Apr-2020, 16:24)mdconnelly Wrote:If your ears are flawed, so are mine, because I agree with your perception of the Devialet amplifiers to be superior and more accurate than any other I have been able to listen to.(05-Apr-2020, 15:45)Jean-Marie Wrote:(05-Apr-2020, 14:10)PeppaPig Wrote: I really don’t like this guy and I question his intention!I'm not so much interested into what he found nor not. Jean-Marie RE: Audio Science Review of Expert 200. - Pim - 05-Apr-2020 (05-Apr-2020, 15:45)Jean-Marie Wrote: I'm not so much interested into what he found nor not.Experience: Great sound Measure: The distance between my speakers and my ears. There's no substitute for a good setup. RE: Audio Science Review of Expert 200. - David A - 05-Apr-2020 Experiencing: a damn good time when I'm listening. Measuring: I don't know how to measure pleasure apart from, perhaps, time spent listening and that's on the up but currently that's an unreliable measure given that the coronavirus lockdown is a confounding factor resulting in more time at home which means more time listening. I assembled my system in order to listen to music and how it sounds and how much I enjoy it counts a lot more to me than how it measures. It sounds great to me, it sounds better than any system I've had in the past, and I'm enjoying listening to music on it more than I've enjoyed listening to any earlier incarnations of my system. Is this going to be the last incarnation of my system? Probably not, but it's highly unlikely that the next change I would make would be replacing my Devialet. I don't think the Devialet is the limiting factor in my system. Audio Science Review of Expert 200. - PeppaPig - 06-Apr-2020 I have a 1000 Pro connected to an MBL low ohm speaker, which known hard to drive speaker brand in the world. I had never ever had issue with the Devialet. I don’t know what that high frequency issue he is described, the treble sounds extremely good in my system, I don’t hear any kind of lack of energy from HF part, instead sometimes I feel it has too much energy in HF, I sometimes drop the treble to -1db in Devialet setting. I also play the MBL in extremely loud volume like to 5db+ and it never shut down itself ever. But I indeed hear that precious Expert generation has problem with driving low ohm speakers. Devialet has improved it in the Pro series and PSU is a major upgrade in Pro. We should email that test to Devialet and see how they response to it. RE: Audio Science Review of Expert 200. - whatmore - 06-Apr-2020 If we are talking about what ears tell us, I put my 120 up for sale the moment I listened to it because it sounded broken. On someone's suggestion, I turned off DPM and things dramatically improved. The ASR review has DPM turned on RE: Audio Science Review of Expert 200. - maxijazz - 06-Apr-2020 (06-Apr-2020, 02:36)whatmore Wrote: The ASR review has DPM turned onThat is quite possible. I can't remember where, but i have twice read about Devialet's poor measurements in past, due to SAM being on as found later on. And the measurements were done by well-known reviewers. I've ignored any measurements presented in "audio media" since then. |