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Jeff Fritz: Soulution 711 v Devialet 400 - Pim - 01-Apr-2015
This will be interesting. Reviewing a $65000.- power amp to see if it is any better than a Devialet 400... not how much better it is.
http://www.soundstageultra.com/index.php/features-menu/opinion-menu/564-devialet-soulution-tidal-and-dacs-and-preamps-the-utterly-disruptive-nature-of-the-high-end-in-2015
RE: Jeff Fritz: Soulution 711 v Devialet 400 - Mikeeo - 01-Apr-2015
(01-Apr-2015, 12:53)Pim van Vliet Wrote: This will be interesting. Reviewing a $65000.- power amp to see if it is any better than a Devialet 400... not how much better it is.
http://www.soundstageultra.com/index.php/features-menu/opinion-menu/564-devialet-soulution-tidal-and-dacs-and-preamps-the-utterly-disruptive-nature-of-the-high-end-in-2015
Well, listening to the 170 at the time before 200 told me that this is something you usually pay loads of money to get. The rest is history and today there has been no other brand to challenge this even if I didn't put effort in looking for a replacement.
One guy comments that he tried the 710 at home but his D800 left it in the dust. Talk about good p/p ration for the Dev.
As I said before, after I bought the Devialet(s) I stopped reading reviews and buying magazines.
/Mike
RE: Jeff Fritz: Soulution 711 v Devialet 400 - GuillaumeB - 01-Apr-2015
(01-Apr-2015, 12:53)Pim van Vliet Wrote: This will be interesting. Reviewing a $65000.- power amp to see if it is any better than a Devialet 400... not how much better it is.
http://www.soundstageultra.com/index.php/features-menu/opinion-menu/564-devialet-soulution-tidal-and-dacs-and-preamps-the-utterly-disruptive-nature-of-the-high-end-in-2015
Very Interesting!
Looks like the Soulution's Damping Factor is >10,000 versus the Devialet's 8,000
Other measurements... Soulution's peak power is 6000W v Devialet's 3000W
Devialet seems to beat Soulution on a few other specs though... SNR and THD+N
Anyway measurements like these don't always tell the full story but it's fun to compare nonetheless!
Also with the Devialet it's difficult to separate the amp bit... so I guess you would have to compare to a fully fledged Soulution system, unless you fed the 711 from a 200 or 250 pre-out!
Guillaume
RE: Jeff Fritz: Soulution 711 v Devialet 400 - f1eng - 02-Apr-2015
The Goldmund preamp and monos which I replaced by my dual D-Premiers are no longer made but the latest version of the preamp, which has a separate power supply and balanced connections (which are now in fashion but Goldmund consider are worse due to extra complexity) and the equivalent monoblocs list at just over €200,000. If one includes DAC and phono stage add at least another €50,000. I would not say that the Devialet was "much better" but it is certainly notably quieter and sounded very similar, which no other amp I have tried ever has.
FWIW
I still think the Devialets are bargains.
RE: Jeff Fritz: Soulution 711 v Devialet 400 - Mikeeo - 02-Apr-2015
(02-Apr-2015, 10:33)f1eng Wrote: The Goldmund preamp and monos which I replaced by my dual D-Premiers are no longer made but the latest version of the preamp, which has a separate power supply and balanced connections (which are now in fashion but Goldmund consider are worse due to extra complexity) and the equivalent monoblocs list at just over €200,000. If one includes DAC and phono stage add at least another €50,000. I would not say that the Devialet was "much better" but it is certainly notably quieter and sounded very similar, which no other amp I have tried ever has.
FWIW
I still think the Devialets are bargains.
The Devialet was for me a no brainer bargain compared to other manufacturers offerings and pricing as I couldn't motivate my self (and wife) to spend +50 000 USD just for amplification.
/Mike