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Headphones - filter settings for vinyl?
#1
Hi
Had forgotten how much headphones exacerbate the surface noise....

Since the Devialet allows filter settings on the line out, any suggestions as to where to start?

I'm using a Graham Slee Solo ultra Linear with Grado SR325s..

Tx
Devialet 250 FW 9.0.1 SOLD
Replaced with Naim NSC222 and NAP250 NC

Atohm GT SE1, REL stereo Subwoofers. Atacama stands filled with atabites. Granite speaker stand plinths. Mogami speaker cables, Music Works heavy duty power cable.
Quadraspire 'toilet seat' acrylic rack
Sources:
1. Mac Mini 2021 M1
- Qobuz/Audirvana Studio/ Audirvana app on iPad (Via Mac mini)
2. Vertere DG-1 with Magneto upgraded to fine line stylus

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#2
(01-Oct-2016, 18:27)DelaneyB Wrote: Hi
Had forgotten how much headphones exacerbate the surface noise....

Since the Devialet allows filter settings on the line out, any suggestions as to where to start?

I'm using a Graham Slee Solo ultra Linear with Grado SR325s..

Tx

Surface noise? Your turntable is not in order. Possible:
1. Which cleaning machine are you using? Clearaudio? Okki Nokki? You MUST remove the press residu from the LP you naturally know.
2. How is the set earthed? Look at all the Power cable products from Kemp Elektronics and you learn a lot. Is the ground earth < 0,1 ohms? Pins on the corners of
the house more then 10 meters into the ground? Earth only sound? radio? TV?
3. Is the height of the arm set right? Try different settings
4. The element is connected with the Devialet in a balanced way? Try
5. Headphones don't exacerbate: bigger moving coil speakers can't follow the details in the sound..... Stax vs ESL no difference at all
6. Element tested and needle in order?
1: Atelier d'Or no.75 (1.5m. AQ RCA-XLR), Heart 2812 QuadESL.nl, Kimber 8TC, WBT, Rel StentorII, Oppo105D (surround), Vodafone Next, Quad 303.2(!Quadrepair.nl), Kef RDM1, BenQW4000i, SBooster (3x), IfiX 3x, 125 inch, Stax 507 (2x) on Stax SRM-1S, SRM D-50, all on Iso-Ac. Gaia1, 2 and 3, Kemp Isolator source and power-, Kemp QA/ SNS plugs (6x), Furutech & ALAC maincables, AQ Blizzard, Van den Hul Mainstream, Optical 8k cables, Clearaudio (Synchro+Champion2+TT3 tangential+CM Bearing+Outer Limit+StradivariV2, 530uV, 200 ohms), NUC11 i7, Samsung-980Pro, -A8, -S24Ultra, Roon Life, Netgear 108, AQ Cinnamon all, Live cable USB, AQ jitterbug 5x, WB 18TB 2x

2: 220Pro, Kef R3, Rel Studio, Oppo103EU (surround), Quad 707(mod), Kef RDM2, all on Iso Acoustics 200, Gaia 3 & 1, LG Oled55, Furutech wall outlets(3x), AQ NRG-Z3 (2m., 5x), Kemp powerstrips, Audiotool filters, Oppo HA2+PM3 + AQ cinnamon cables

1900 recorded LP's 24/192, 850 DSD 5.1 SACD (via Oppo), 4800 ripped CD's, Qubuz

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#3
I no longer listen to LPs using headphones for this reason.
I had used good quality headphones since 1970 (starting with Koss electrostatics) but don't play LPs at all any more if I am listening to headphones.
Whilst most of the colourations added in the LP record/replay process are euphonic and sound lovely the poor signal to noise ratio is blindingly obvious on headphones and since the noise is broadband you can't really filter it out.
The other non-euphonic shortcoming of LP systems is speed stability, which can be addressed.
Devialet Original d'Atelier 44 Core, Job Pre/225, Goldmund PH2, Goldmund Reference/T3f /Ortofon A90, Goldmund Mimesis 36+ & Chord Blu, iMac/Air, Lynx Theta, Tune Audio Anima, Goldmund Epilog 1&2, REL Studio. Dialog, Silver Phantoms, Branch stands, copper cables (mainly).
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#4
(22-Oct-2016, 18:44)Peter van der Laarse Wrote:
(01-Oct-2016, 18:27)DelaneyB Wrote: Hi
Had forgotten how much headphones exacerbate the surface noise....

Since the Devialet allows filter settings on the line out, any suggestions as to where to start?

I'm using a Graham Slee Solo ultra Linear with Grado SR325s..

Tx

Surface noise? Your turntable is not in order. Possible:
1. Which cleaning machine are you using? Clearaudio? Okki Nokki? You MUST remove the press residu from the LP you naturally know.
2. How is the set earthed? Look at all the Power cable products from Kemp Elektronics and you learn a lot. Is the ground earth < 0,1 ohms? Pins on the corners of
the house more then 10 meters into the ground? Earth only sound? radio? TV?
3. Is the height of the arm set right? Try different settings
4. The element is connected with the Devialet in a balanced way? Try
5. Headphones don't exacerbate: bigger moving coil speakers can't follow the details in the sound..... Stax vs ESL no difference at all
6. Element tested and needle in order?

New Rega P3/Exact - I am playing some 40+ yr old vinyl... cleaned with vinyl rejuvenator gel. So I'll expect to hear more pops and crackles with headphones I suppose. Sounds superb otherwise.
Devialet 250 FW 9.0.1 SOLD
Replaced with Naim NSC222 and NAP250 NC

Atohm GT SE1, REL stereo Subwoofers. Atacama stands filled with atabites. Granite speaker stand plinths. Mogami speaker cables, Music Works heavy duty power cable.
Quadraspire 'toilet seat' acrylic rack
Sources:
1. Mac Mini 2021 M1
- Qobuz/Audirvana Studio/ Audirvana app on iPad (Via Mac mini)
2. Vertere DG-1 with Magneto upgraded to fine line stylus

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