Poll: How forgiving is the Pro series top end?
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More forgiving to bright/harsh recordings.
38.89%
14 38.89%
As forgiving to bright/harsh recordings.
27.78%
10 27.78%
Less forgiving to bright/harsh recordings.
33.33%
12 33.33%
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Pro vs Non-Pro Top End
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(14-Dec-2016, 19:00)Antoine Wrote: Sorry if it's off topic but here's some examples of modern pop/poppy recordings I feel illustrate what I mean (don't mind the musical selections I made too much or thinkmI'm a huge fan of Alexis Jordan for example! Big Grin)

OK but 'hot' upper mids/treble (close miked, breathy vocals):
Andra Day - Rise up
Angus and Julia Stone - album Down the way
Birdy - album Birdy

Added edge:
Alexis Jordan - Happiness (an extreme example this one, it's used as an effect here)
Beyonce - I am Sasha Fierce (album eg. song Disappear)
Adele - 21

Thin/edgy/slightly distorted:
The Script - For the first time

OK but softer/softened treble:
Frazey Ford - September Fields

Bad/brittle:
Metallica - the black album with songs like Nothing Else Matters

Even with the worst of these examples I would no longer feel the need to turn the volume down. It'll still sound crap but doesn't hurt my ears anymore. This was way different some years back. Wink
Just had a quick spin through the above, none of them were bad recordings in my book, and the faults in most sounded quiet deliberate. So I tried the most recent Garbage album, which was unlistenable on the 400, it's still a loudness war causality, but the 440 makes it hugely better somehow.

This is what I want from a hifi, something that let's me know where any problem in a recording lies, and in all these cases the problem isn't in my home, but in the master.

I don't know how to vote I the poll, the top end of the pro is simply better to me, and is much closer to the sound of real instruments, that often have very aggressive leading edges. To me the pro focuses the energy more clearly on the leading edge, though what sounds like the use of massive power, to be more accurate. So sometimes the music is much less polite than before, but only because the music is meant to be.
For example Dry by PJ Harvey is a dynamic album, and played loud (-2 the other day) on the pro it's about as close to a rock band in a lounge as I think I might want, it's a raw and visceral experience, utterly thrilling. But put something else on and the system sounds totally different, the pro does this more clearly than before. Not sure this is any use, but I love the upgrade.
Roon, Rega P9 + Dynavector XX2Mk2 > 440 Pro > Sonus Faber Guarneri Evolution
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Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by Dr Tone - 14-Dec-2016, 16:26
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by Antoine - 14-Dec-2016, 17:06
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by Dr Tone - 14-Dec-2016, 17:32
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by Wdw - 14-Dec-2016, 23:27
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by Antoine - 14-Dec-2016, 17:29
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by baconbrain - 18-Dec-2016, 10:06
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by Antoine - 14-Dec-2016, 17:35
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by Dr Tone - 14-Dec-2016, 17:52
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by Antoine - 14-Dec-2016, 19:00
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by Confused - 14-Dec-2016, 19:51
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by yabaVR - 14-Dec-2016, 21:24
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by Soniclife - 14-Dec-2016, 21:09
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by Confused - 14-Dec-2016, 23:37
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by Dr Tone - 15-Dec-2016, 02:54
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by mdconnelly - 15-Dec-2016, 04:03
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by Confused - 18-Dec-2016, 12:25
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by yabaVR - 18-Dec-2016, 12:54
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by Confused - 18-Dec-2016, 13:02
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by yabaVR - 18-Dec-2016, 18:19
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by baconbrain - 18-Dec-2016, 23:53
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by yabaVR - 19-Dec-2016, 09:49
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by baconbrain - 19-Dec-2016, 12:49
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by Dr Tone - 18-Dec-2016, 16:26
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by Confused - 18-Dec-2016, 17:13
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by Confused - 18-Dec-2016, 13:26
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by yabaVR - 18-Dec-2016, 14:47
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by Confused - 18-Dec-2016, 17:19
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by Antoine - 18-Dec-2016, 17:52
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by Antoine - 19-Dec-2016, 00:41
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by Dr Tone - 19-Dec-2016, 01:06
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by Pim - 19-Dec-2016, 10:35
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by yabaVR - 19-Dec-2016, 13:04
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by Antoine - 19-Dec-2016, 13:05
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by Dr Tone - 19-Dec-2016, 15:50
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by Confused - 19-Dec-2016, 13:45
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by Dr Tone - 13-Feb-2017, 19:16
Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by samsoum - 13-Feb-2017, 19:35
RE: Pro vs Non-Pro Top End - by Pim - 13-Feb-2017, 20:18

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