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Headphones - filter settings for vinyl?
#1
Hi
Had forgotten how much headphones exacerbate the surface noise....

Since the Devialet allows filter settings on the line out, any suggestions as to where to start?

I'm using a Graham Slee Solo ultra Linear with Grado SR325s..

Tx
Devialet 250 FW 9.0.1
Atohm GT SE1. Atacama stands
Sources:
1. Mac Mini 2011 (SSD 16GB RAM)- Devialet Air 3
Audioquest Forrest ethernet cables, local network on separate router
- Qobuz/Audirvana 2+/ Audirvana app on iPad (Via Mac mini)
2. 1999 Rega Planet CD - with replaced mechanism
3. 2016 Rega P3 Turntable with Exact cartridge

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#2
(01-Oct-2016, 18:27)DelaneyB Wrote: Hi
Had forgotten how much headphones exacerbate the surface noise....

Since the Devialet allows filter settings on the line out, any suggestions as to where to start?

I'm using a Graham Slee Solo ultra Linear with Grado SR325s..

Tx

Surface noise? Your turntable is not in order. Possible:
1. Which cleaning machine are you using? Clearaudio? Okki Nokki? You MUST remove the press residu from the LP you naturally know.
2. How is the set earthed? Look at all the Power cable products from Kemp Elektronics and you learn a lot. Is the ground earth < 0,1 ohms? Pins on the corners of
the house more then 10 meters into the ground? Earth only sound? radio? TV?
3. Is the height of the arm set right? Try different settings
4. The element is connected with the Devialet in a balanced way? Try
5. Headphones don't exacerbate: bigger moving coil speakers can't follow the details in the sound..... Stax vs ESL no difference at all
6. Element tested and needle in order?
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Source 1: Clearaudio (Synchro+Champion levelII+TT3 tangential tonearm+CM Bearing+Outer Limit+StradivariV2) connected in a balanced way on Devialet220, 520uV, 60 ohms
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#3
I no longer listen to LPs using headphones for this reason.
I had used good quality headphones since 1970 (starting with Koss electrostatics) but don't play LPs at all any more if I am listening to headphones.
Whilst most of the colourations added in the LP record/replay process are euphonic and sound lovely the poor signal to noise ratio is blindingly obvious on headphones and since the noise is broadband you can't really filter it out.
The other non-euphonic shortcoming of LP systems is speed stability, which can be addressed.
Devialet Original d'Atelier 44, Goldmund Reference/T3f /Ortofon A90, Goldmund Mimesis 36+ & Chord Blu, iMac/Air, Meridian Control 15, Lynx Theta, Tune Audio Anima, Goldmund Epilog 1&2, REL Studio. Dialog, Silver Phantoms, Branch stands, copper cables (mainly).

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(22-Oct-2016, 18:44)Peter van der Laarse Wrote:
(01-Oct-2016, 18:27)DelaneyB Wrote: Hi
Had forgotten how much headphones exacerbate the surface noise....

Since the Devialet allows filter settings on the line out, any suggestions as to where to start?

I'm using a Graham Slee Solo ultra Linear with Grado SR325s..

Tx

Surface noise? Your turntable is not in order. Possible:
1. Which cleaning machine are you using? Clearaudio? Okki Nokki? You MUST remove the press residu from the LP you naturally know.
2. How is the set earthed? Look at all the Power cable products from Kemp Elektronics and you learn a lot. Is the ground earth < 0,1 ohms? Pins on the corners of
the house more then 10 meters into the ground? Earth only sound? radio? TV?
3. Is the height of the arm set right? Try different settings
4. The element is connected with the Devialet in a balanced way? Try
5. Headphones don't exacerbate: bigger moving coil speakers can't follow the details in the sound..... Stax vs ESL no difference at all
6. Element tested and needle in order?

New Rega P3/Exact - I am playing some 40+ yr old vinyl... cleaned with vinyl rejuvenator gel. So I'll expect to hear more pops and crackles with headphones I suppose. Sounds superb otherwise.
Devialet 250 FW 9.0.1
Atohm GT SE1. Atacama stands
Sources:
1. Mac Mini 2011 (SSD 16GB RAM)- Devialet Air 3
Audioquest Forrest ethernet cables, local network on separate router
- Qobuz/Audirvana 2+/ Audirvana app on iPad (Via Mac mini)
2. 1999 Rega Planet CD - with replaced mechanism
3. 2016 Rega P3 Turntable with Exact cartridge

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