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New phonostage in the Pro models?
#1
Is the phonostage diffrent in the new PRO models compared to the old ones? I see that some thinks the new ones are quieter and less "hiss" but do we know if there is a new one in the Pro models?
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Sopra 2, Devialet 440 Pro, Cabledyne Reference Silver RCA-XLR Digital Adapter Cable, Supra CAT7+, Cabledyne Premier Silver Speaker Cables, Clearaudio Concept MC, Ansuz Mainz 8D, Ansuz Mainz POM , Ansuz Darkz D, DIY mains supply with N1XV 3G10, Klangmodul, XY-filter and ELEC IEC connector


Tidal Hifi -> Roon Lifetime -> Signalyst HQ Player -> Devialet AIR3 -> Ethernet -> Devialet 440 Pro

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Devialet Dialog, Devialet Silver Phantom, Devialet Tree
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#2
At least the sound quality is much better with new phono. Much more solid, open and good prat.
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(05-Nov-2016, 16:16)Waiski Wrote: At least the sound quality is much better with new phono. Much more solid, open and good prat.

Good to hear that, had a talk with my dealer and he likes the phono stage but it was to noisy to be really good.
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Sopra 2, Devialet 440 Pro, Cabledyne Reference Silver RCA-XLR Digital Adapter Cable, Supra CAT7+, Cabledyne Premier Silver Speaker Cables, Clearaudio Concept MC, Ansuz Mainz 8D, Ansuz Mainz POM , Ansuz Darkz D, DIY mains supply with N1XV 3G10, Klangmodul, XY-filter and ELEC IEC connector


Tidal Hifi -> Roon Lifetime -> Signalyst HQ Player -> Devialet AIR3 -> Ethernet -> Devialet 440 Pro

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Devialet Dialog, Devialet Silver Phantom, Devialet Tree
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#4
I was trying too find out if there was a ney phonostage In Pro models, i could NOT find Any proof about ney phonostage, i Think When they ask more than 3000 euro upgrading too Pro models, i Think it could be With a ney upgrade phonostage ,but no no and that suck,S
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#5
I have just got my 1000 Pro set up. One thing I was keen to check was if the phono stage is any quieter. There have been some encouraging reports and one early review to suggest that the Pro phono stage is indeed very quiet. Anyway, I have just tried the phono stage in my nice new Pro and unfortunately, the hiss level appears to be more or less the same as my 'old' D800. This is a little disappointing. To early to say if the phono stage is any better in other respects.
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#6
Did you use the grounding in your setup? I thought it was really quiet on the 400...
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(06-Nov-2016, 13:25)Confused Wrote: I have just got my 1000 Pro set up. One thing I was keen to check was if the phono stage is any quieter. There have been some encouraging reports and one early review to suggest that the Pro phono stage is indeed very quiet. Anyway, I have just tried the phono stage in my nice new Pro and unfortunately, the hiss level appears to be more or less the same as my 'old' D800. This is a little disappointing. To early to say if the phono stage is any better in other respects.
My opinion as well. It's possibly slightly quieter, but only slightly.

I discussed this the other day when picking up my 440, my analysis of people who experience low hiss is they have MC carts with 0.5mv or higher output, and the dealer confirmed that matched with what they have experienced. So when I wear this cart out I'll be paying attention to output level for the replacement.
Air 3, Rega P9 with Dynavector XX2Mk2 > 440 Pro > Sonus Faber Guarneri Evolution
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(06-Nov-2016, 13:25)Confused Wrote: I have just got my 1000 Pro set up.  One thing I was keen to check was if the phono stage is any quieter.  There have been some encouraging reports and one early review to suggest that the Pro phono stage is indeed very quiet.  Anyway, I have just tried the phono stage in my nice new Pro and unfortunately, the hiss level appears to be more or less the same as my 'old' D800.  This is a little disappointing.  To early to say if the phono stage is any better in other respects.

What pickup are you using.

If I was looking for a new MC pickup what output seems to be the best match with Devialet regarding the "hiss" problem.
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Focal 
Sopra 2, Devialet 440 Pro, Cabledyne Reference Silver RCA-XLR Digital Adapter Cable, Supra CAT7+, Cabledyne Premier Silver Speaker Cables, Clearaudio Concept MC, Ansuz Mainz 8D, Ansuz Mainz POM , Ansuz Darkz D, DIY mains supply with N1XV 3G10, Klangmodul, XY-filter and ELEC IEC connector


Tidal Hifi -> Roon Lifetime -> Signalyst HQ Player -> Devialet AIR3 -> Ethernet -> Devialet 440 Pro

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Devialet Dialog, Devialet Silver Phantom, Devialet Tree
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(06-Nov-2016, 15:24)octaviars Wrote:
(06-Nov-2016, 13:25)Confused Wrote: I have just got my 1000 Pro set up.  One thing I was keen to check was if the phono stage is any quieter.  There have been some encouraging reports and one early review to suggest that the Pro phono stage is indeed very quiet.  Anyway, I have just tried the phono stage in my nice new Pro and unfortunately, the hiss level appears to be more or less the same as my 'old' D800.  This is a little disappointing.  To early to say if the phono stage is any better in other respects.

What pickup are you using.

If I was looking for a new MC pickup what output seems to be the best match with Devialet regarding the "hiss" problem.

As Soniclife said, the higher the output, the better. Anything over 0.5 mV will sound less "hissy" than lesser output cartridges.
Project Eperience X Pack with Ortofon Rondo Red MC, Oppo BDP 105D, Sonos Connect, QNAP HS251+ NAS running JRiver, Mutec MC-3+USB, Devialet 440 Pro, Denon AH-D5000, Sennheiser HD600 and HD800 with Cardas cable, Rupert Neve Designs headphone amp., Proac Response D20R, Van Den Hul The First Ultimate interconnects, GSP Audio Spatia speaker cable.
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#10
Ok, I have a Clearaudio Concept MC that has 0.4mV output, my current setup makes a bit to much "hiss".
I am looking at a new turntable setup so this is something I will consider when selecting a new pickup.
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Focal 
Sopra 2, Devialet 440 Pro, Cabledyne Reference Silver RCA-XLR Digital Adapter Cable, Supra CAT7+, Cabledyne Premier Silver Speaker Cables, Clearaudio Concept MC, Ansuz Mainz 8D, Ansuz Mainz POM , Ansuz Darkz D, DIY mains supply with N1XV 3G10, Klangmodul, XY-filter and ELEC IEC connector


Tidal Hifi -> Roon Lifetime -> Signalyst HQ Player -> Devialet AIR3 -> Ethernet -> Devialet 440 Pro

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Devialet Dialog, Devialet Silver Phantom, Devialet Tree
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