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Focal Utopia Diablo's
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I'm trying to setup a single JL Audio Fathom F110 and wondered if anyone can help with settings in my D200?

I know I need to experiment as my room will affect things, I'm just looking for a good starting point.

What order is the crossover in the Diablo's? First, second, third or fourth?

What's a good starting point for subwoofer upper cut-off? Focal specification says 44Hz - 40KHz for the Diablo.
Is it better to run the Diablo's full range or cut them off at the same point as the sub cuts in or should there be a small over lap?

I haven't even started with positioning either, so far it seems pretty good just sat between the speakers!

   
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My suggestion after trying everything that is possible with the Devialet is to run the speakers full range. Using the crossover is processing the whole audio signal which results in a more digital sound. Try to find the best phase setting for the sub and experiment with a crossover frequency between 40 and 45hz. The best is to use a measurement tool, this can even be a smartphone for a rough estimate. Depending on room resonances it may be useful to use a lower crossover frequency, e.g. if you have a room mode around 45hz.
What can also make a huge difference is the placement of the sub. All in all millions of possibilities...
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Jim Smith has done a series on subwoofer set up in Copper magazine.

Here's a link to the back issues. I think the posts were in the last 8 issues.

http://www.psaudio.com/copper-magazine/
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Hi LeeC,

you have two choices integrating a sub to your system.

1. Connecting the sub output of your Devialet to the JL using a RCA cable. As your JL only supports low level inputs this might appear as the only way to you now.

2. Connecting the speaker outputs of your Devialet in parallel to the JL. That's a high level connection. Some subwoofers provide extra high level inputs for this scenario. Unfortunately the JL doesn't.
But you can work around this by using a device as in the picture below. It appears to be of low quality but there is only two transmitters inside leveling the signal from high to low level. And it does a very good job when sensitively leveled with the build in potentiometers.

I've used it more than a dozen times to integrate subwoofers very nicely to a system. With a High level connection you get a sub straightforwardly integrated into your system. Connected this way the sub won't bother you with this boomy (out of phase signal) presence many Subwoofer-Configurations are showing. It would integrate just so smoothly and give you a much bigger stage of sound and thrust where it's needed. It's even more likely you can place the sub into a corner out of view using a high level connection.

Some words to positioning of your speakers. It might be necessary to move your speakers (more) out of the corner(s) because the bass (of your speakers) resonates/billows out more in corners and you won't be able to find a matching crossover frequency/level for the sub to integrate into the sound. It's impossible to match to a boomy resonance with a sub. The sub would rather play to loud or it would not be able to support the depth of bass because you have to level it down.

Another trick. Start with the lowest possible crossover frequency you can adjust to the sub. Increase level and find the point where the sub gets to your attention...then pull back a bit and you're done. You might have to adjust the level for some special recordings with very deep bass (London Grammar 'Hey Now' etc.) but that's the game when using a sub  Big Grin

Have fun. Once having a perfectly integrated sub and you will never do without it...it's not because of the bass but the enormous stage you gain Tongue

gui

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And trust the words of Vivialet. Don't use the integrated crossover of your D. The Focal speakers should run full range. Sounds the best.


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