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From the Temple of Truth .........
As you know we always recommend to use the latest firmware.
However this one should not change your experience too much.
We made this one because we found a specific issue when using firmware 10 with a very complex configuration.
Then we thought we would make it available for everyone.
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(24-Apr-2017, 20:49)Confused Wrote: From the Temple of Truth .........
As you know we always recommend to use the latest firmware.
However this one should not change your experience too much.
We made this one because we found a specific issue when using firmware 10 with a very complex configuration.
Then we thought we would make it available for everyone.
The "very complex configuration" being what they need for the streamer board perhaps?
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24-Apr-2017, 21:13
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(24-Apr-2017, 20:49)Confused Wrote: From the Temple of Truth .........
As you know we always recommend to use the latest firmware.
However this one should not change your experience too much.
We made this one because we found a specific issue when using firmware 10 with a very complex configuration.
Then we thought we would make it available for everyone.
Ha, ha, ha...they have no clue...didn't we know that before  .
Just measure your stuff Devialet! But give me the email of that guy who programmed the 'minor bug fixes'. May be he is the smartest in team, got ears and uses them. I'll pay him a few bucks for the next minor fixes on my 'complex configuration'...oh my...measuring and have no idea...sigh 
gui
p.s. I refuse to accept that it's simply luck we are dependent on with the updates...I can not believe it 
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(24-Apr-2017, 21:13)yabaVR Wrote: (24-Apr-2017, 20:49)Confused Wrote: From the Temple of Truth .........
As you know we always recommend to use the latest firmware.
However this one should not change your experience too much.
We made this one because we found a specific issue when using firmware 10 with a very complex configuration.
Then we thought we would make it available for everyone.
Ha, ha, ha...they have no clue...didn't we know that before .
Just measure your stuff Devialet! But give me the email of that guy who programmed the 'minor bug fixes'. May be he is the smartest in team, got ears and uses them. I'll pay him a few bucks for the next minor fixes on my 'complex configuration'...oh my...measuring and have no idea...sigh
gui
p.s. I refuse to accept that it's simply luck we are dependent on with the updates...I can not believe it
gui - I am sure we will never know! But it is nice to speculate that they do have a few fine minds in Devialet that know how to optimise for sound quality improvements, it's actually highly probable I would have thought. There is certainly plenty of opinion based evidence in the past to suggest that firmware changes impacted sound quality. (the debate of 7.1.3 vs FW 8 & 9 will almost certainly never be resolved, but nobody ever advised they preferred 6 as far as I can recall, although some claimed no difference) As for me, I have my don't change two things at once rule. Because I have just installed an Aqvox switch, all this new firmware goodness will need to wait a couple of weeks at least, but never mind, it's always good to have something to look forward to! 
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(24-Apr-2017, 21:32)Confused Wrote: (24-Apr-2017, 21:13)yabaVR Wrote: (24-Apr-2017, 20:49)Confused Wrote: From the Temple of Truth .........
As you know we always recommend to use the latest firmware.
However this one should not change your experience too much.
We made this one because we found a specific issue when using firmware 10 with a very complex configuration.
Then we thought we would make it available for everyone.
Ha, ha, ha...they have no clue...didn't we know that before .
Just measure your stuff Devialet! But give me the email of that guy who programmed the 'minor bug fixes'. May be he is the smartest in team, got ears and uses them. I'll pay him a few bucks for the next minor fixes on my 'complex configuration'...oh my...measuring and have no idea...sigh
gui
p.s. I refuse to accept that it's simply luck we are dependent on with the updates...I can not believe it
gui - I am sure we will never know! But it is nice to speculate that they do have a few fine minds in Devialet that know how to optimise for sound quality improvements, it's actually highly probable I would have thought. There is certainly plenty of opinion based evidence in the past to suggest that firmware changes impacted sound quality. (the debate of 7.1.3 vs FW 8 & 9 will almost certainly never be resolved, but nobody ever advised they preferred 6 as far as I can recall, although some claimed no difference) As for me, I have my don't change two things at once rule. Because I have just installed an Aqvox switch, all this new firmware goodness will need to wait a couple of weeks at least, but never mind, it's always good to have something to look forward to!
I am a big Fan of 7.1.3 but I installed 10.1.0 and I am very positive impressed with it. I can hear more sound details and transparency is now better. Sound is dynamic and not too digital. I will need more listening tests to say sth more.
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(24-Apr-2017, 21:32)Confused Wrote: (24-Apr-2017, 21:13)yabaVR Wrote: (24-Apr-2017, 20:49)Confused Wrote: From the Temple of Truth .........
As you know we always recommend to use the latest firmware.
However this one should not change your experience too much.
We made this one because we found a specific issue when using firmware 10 with a very complex configuration.
Then we thought we would make it available for everyone.
Ha, ha, ha...they have no clue...didn't we know that before .
Just measure your stuff Devialet! But give me the email of that guy who programmed the 'minor bug fixes'. May be he is the smartest in team, got ears and uses them. I'll pay him a few bucks for the next minor fixes on my 'complex configuration'...oh my...measuring and have no idea...sigh
gui
p.s. I refuse to accept that it's simply luck we are dependent on with the updates...I can not believe it
gui - I am sure we will never know! But it is nice to speculate that they do have a few fine minds in Devialet that know how to optimise for sound quality improvements, it's actually highly probable I would have thought. There is certainly plenty of opinion based evidence in the past to suggest that firmware changes impacted sound quality. (the debate of 7.1.3 vs FW 8 & 9 will almost certainly never be resolved, but nobody ever advised they preferred 6 as far as I can recall, although some claimed no difference) As for me, I have my don't change two things at once rule. Because I have just installed an Aqvox switch, all this new firmware goodness will need to wait a couple of weeks at least, but never mind, it's always good to have something to look forward to!
The Aqvox may need weeks to burn in finally. But you can do the firmware update right now, because you will notice the difference at once (and it's much bigger than the diff with the Aqvox I bet).
No need for A/B or wondering if your imagination just made it up. Just taste the honey now...don't know what next week will bring  .
gui
p.s. ...and here's one more. You'll be able to distinguish the diff between your standard switch/router and the Aqvox more precisely because of the increase of transparency with the 10.1.0 
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(24-Apr-2017, 20:49)Confused Wrote: From the Temple of Truth .........
As you know we always recommend to use the latest firmware.
However this one should not change your experience too much.
We made this one because we found a specific issue when using firmware 10 with a very complex configuration.
Then we thought we would make it available for everyone.
It's nice to know they jump to fix a specific issue with a complex configuration (presumably for one individual?), and let us all have it (without knowing what specific complex configuration issue it fixes but by the sounds of it is probably irrelevant to most of us anyway) but are slow to fix issues that affect a larger number of people over prolonged periods.
Perhaps 'that guy' (or gal) was a Devialet senior staffer, or investor, or someone using the Devialet for mastering or something similar....
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Impressed with 10.1.0 too so far.
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Is this a binary 10/10 for Devialet or is it just Humbug to fix a hum bug ... we will never know.
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My findings:
1. More detailed sound (on TV sound live classical broadcasting)
2. I turned back the highs: from + 2.5 dB to + 1.5 dB at 8 kHz. (To compensate the frequency curve of the Quad ESL 2812)
3. Since wednesday last week (april 19th) I own the Samsung S8 smartphone with 256 GB in it and self recorded Clearaudio records 192-24 on it. Suddenly, yesterdayevening it played the music again via the Devialet app (play store) straight through the router into the Ethernet entrance. Sounds beautifully.
Not sensational but happy with it.
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