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I do understand why you are doing this !
But do not even try to listen to several units to see which performs the best - you can loose your mind eventually..
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Worry not johnsap - my mind was lost long ago .... Anyway. Enough of my plans. The 220 Pro and 440 Pro are both out in the wild now. Surely someone has had a listen now, or at least has an audition booked, maybe at the weekend?
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I mean that once I tried to open several new boxed of the same equipment to see which new box performs better.
believe it or not but I believed they sounded differently !
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(08-Sep-2016, 22:19)johnsap Wrote: I mean that once I tried to open several new boxed of the same equipment to see which new box performs better.
believe it or not but I believed they sounded differently !
I believe it! Plus, you've got me thinking now.... I wonder....
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Confirmed from Devialet today: v10.x of the firmware is mandatory for Pro Experts. So an amp coming back from upgrade will have v10.x installed. It will not be possible to install firmware lower than 10.x on a Pro according to Devialet.
I am not worried by this though. I believe v10 is made for version6 electronics and the reports we have seen from people not liking v10 on their Expert amps would not apply if this was Pro versions.
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(09-Sep-2016, 09:32)ogs Wrote: Confirmed from Devialet today: v10.x of the firmware is mandatory for Pro Experts. So an amp coming back from upgrade will have v10.x installed. It will not be possible to install firmware lower than 10.x on a Pro according to Devialet.
I am not worried by this though. I believe v10 is made for version6 electronics and the reports we have seen from people not liking v10 on their Expert amps would not apply if this was Pro versions.
But that would mean that any future version will sound as crappy (or close) as 10.0.2 on non-pro versions.
Seems like I'm stuck on 7.1.3 for a while then...
No problem. It sounds awesome!
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Yeah, I can imagine v10 and all future firmware will be optimised with the pro's as a priority.
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So no more firmware upgrades for me either. Its been an interesting, if at times slightly frustrating journey past 2 years.
However, I have a 250 on the 9.-- firmware, Air3 for Mac, all working fine and sounding beautiful. I can stream fully integrated Qobuz via my iPad app and the Mac Mini. Nothing crashes. No white noise. Have a few tweaks, a music works mains cable, a good bamboo Quadraspire rack, solid heavy Atacama speaker stands on granite blocks. So finally got there.
I don't feel the need to start an upgrade cycle, that would end up with no doubt changing speakers, a 1000 pro and lots of angst on the way. I did that with Naim, and Devialet was a move to just enjoying the music. Gold phantoms might be a move more in that direction, but I find the design a bit ugly and they would look a bit weird in our 1895 - antique furniture, fireplace, cornicing, picture rails, stained glass etc lounge
Devialet Chat has been very helpful with the FW updates, AIR woes etc.
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(09-Sep-2016, 09:54)Cylob Wrote: (09-Sep-2016, 09:32)ogs Wrote: Confirmed from Devialet today: v10.x of the firmware is mandatory for Pro Experts. So an amp coming back from upgrade will have v10.x installed. It will not be possible to install firmware lower than 10.x on a Pro according to Devialet.
I am not worried by this though. I believe v10 is made for version6 electronics and the reports we have seen from people not liking v10 on their Expert amps would not apply if this was Pro versions.
But that would mean that any future version will sound as crappy (or close) as 10.0.2 on non-pro versions.
Seems like I'm stuck on 7.1.3 for a while then...
No problem. It sounds awesome!
I am on 9.0.1 at the moment with a plan to go back to 7.1.3 to check. I used 7.1.3 for a long time and loved it!. Now this may not happen as I've decided I want to upgrade to Pro.
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(09-Sep-2016, 10:28)DelaneyB Wrote: So no more firmware upgrades for me either. Its been an interesting, if at times slightly frustrating journey past 2 years.
However, I have a 250 on the 9.-- firmware, Air3 for Mac, all working fine and sounding beautiful. I can stream fully integrated Qobuz via my iPad app and the Mac Mini. Nothing crashes. No white noise. Have a few tweaks, a music works mains cable, a good bamboo Quadraspire rack, solid heavy Atacama speaker stands on granite blocks. So finally got there.
I don't feel the need to start an upgrade cycle, that would end up with no doubt changing speakers, a 1000 pro and lots of angst on the way. I did that with Naim, and Devialet was a move to just enjoying the music. Gold phantoms might be a move more in that direction, but I find the design a bit ugly and they would look a bit weird in our 1895 - antique furniture, fireplace, cornicing, picture rails, stained glass etc lounge
Devialet Chat has been very helpful with the FW updates, AIR woes etc.
I have also thought about Gold Phantoms. If I do not get along with the 250 after upgrade I'll sell it and install a pair of G Phantoms instead. Or maybe a pair of Kii THREE... My wife has sort of pre-approved Phantoms. We walked in to the local high end store one day in spring. I knew Phantoms where on display, but I took her to a different area of the store. She immediately spotted the Phantoms however and said "we can have those!"
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