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RE: Bass response - how deep should my speakers go for a lifelike sound at home? - Antoine - 08-Jul-2015 (07-Jul-2015, 20:10)f1eng Wrote:(07-Jul-2015, 19:39)Antoine Wrote: Subwoofers are not just about low frequency extension. Subwoofers allow one to even the bass response in a room without compromising optimal main loudspeaker setup. The best spot for a speaker in regard to (for example and not limited to) stereo imaging is hardly ever the best spot for the best bass response. I'm not sure if one single sub in a room paired with DSP (especially one that doesn't try to boost dips/nulls) is any or much worse in bass evenness than a pair of speakers. I guess that depends on the setup of both, but of course more LF sources would be better which was exactly one of my points as well. Personally I set up my system for best sound at a certain sweet spot and don't really care about the rest of the room. RE: Bass response - how deep should my speakers go for a lifelike sound at home? - Rodney Gold - 08-Jul-2015 Me too . sweet spot is the sweet spot.. I tried 2 subs with my Giya g1's , but the G1's go so low, it was a little bit of a waste and didnt really do much at all . I did try them as "node busters" , kind of worked but gave no appreciable improvement in my sound. With other speakers I have had , twin + subs worked real well.. What I have found using subs is that the ambient cues seem to be revealed and there is a distinct improvement in soundstage width and depth... Im using DIRAC for low bass control these days. A lot depends on the room , treatments and levels you like to play at.. I listen loud (lifelike levels) and a lot of electronica and other music I listen to is bass heavy... If my bass isnt right , then it makes no difference to me as to the rest of the spectrum, boomy bass ruins it for me.. RE: Bass response - how deep should my speakers go for a lifelike sound at home? - completeluxury - 10-Jul-2015 You run g1's so i dont find that very surprising that subs dont help much! Ive just recieved 2 jl audio 12 inch subs today and am going to be setting them up over the weekend so ill have something to report in here! Hoping they compliment my vivid b1s nicely RE: Bass response - how deep should my speakers go for a lifelike sound at home? - Confused - 10-Jul-2015 (10-Jul-2015, 13:33)completeluxury Wrote: You run g1's so i dont find that very surprising that subs dont help much! An interesting combination! Isn't this an unusually high speaker to sub cost ratio? Might be fun though .... RE: Bass response - how deep should my speakers go for a lifelike sound at home? - completeluxury - 10-Jul-2015 welllll its the JL e-sub range. on top of that i got them for 37% of the RRP (not 37% off, 37% of the RRP) so i couldnt really say no. admittedly it would be a very high speaker - sub ratio if i worked off of RRP. i definietely wanted 2 though so i can set them up as L/R channels in the configurator RE: Bass response - how deep should my speakers go for a lifelike sound at home? - Music or sound - 11-Jul-2015 Going back to the original point of this thread I think a speaker should at least be able to reproduce 41 Hz (the lowest note on stringed instruments) and that with enough dynamic range and speed (that what many small woofers miss). Of course being able to reproduce 30Hz would be nice but anything below that I consider unnecessary and requires a lot of effort to really reproduce well in a room. in short: more important is the quality of the bass (impulse response, distortion etc) than how the deep the -3dB point is. An other comment to subwoofer placement: they can be optimized for in room response independent of the main speakers but then there is the problem of the upper crossover point (interference patterns from identical sound sources). The distance of main speakers and subs should be within less than 1/4 wavelength. So either not so far from the main speakers or low crossover point! RE: Bass response - how deep should my speakers go for a lifelike sound at home? - completeluxury - 11-Jul-2015 in Jim Bensons Get better sound he recommends putting the subs behind the speakers in the same line so that the crossover point meshes perfectly. RE: Bass response - how deep should my speakers go for a lifelike sound at home? - Rodney Gold - 15-Jul-2015 I have bought 4x Yamaha ns-sw300 subs , small subs, and am going to try the "swarm" approach, they should be here on thur or fri so will experiment over the weekend.. I wont high pass the G1's http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/audiokinesis-swarm-subwoofer-system/ http://www.enjoythemusic.com/diy/0812/distributed_bass.htm I was thinking 6 subs , but 4 will do me for now .. RE: Bass response - how deep should my speakers go for a lifelike sound at home? - completeluxury - 15-Jul-2015 i have been doing some quick measurements with acourate before people got home and started making noise. When you do a logsweep of your system it tells you equal your left and right channels are compared to each other. my room is horrible with an open side while the other is a wall so ive always gotten about 55%. by simply using an 80 hz crossover between sub and speaker ive raised the left and right speakers to 69%! so i think using a subwoofer can be important |