01-Dec-2020, 22:24
I would just ask another (potentially dumb) question. If I hooked the Node to my network wirelessly, could the Node transmit music to a Devialet via ethernet?
aspiring user - rookie questions for streaming on a Expert (non Pro)
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01-Dec-2020, 22:24
I would just ask another (potentially dumb) question. If I hooked the Node to my network wirelessly, could the Node transmit music to a Devialet via ethernet?
01-Dec-2020, 22:50
I don't think that will be possible, because the Node won't have any built-in way to "talk to" the Devialet to send it the audio stream. As far as I know, the only way you can send music over the network to an Expert (or Pro without Core Infinity) is using Devialet AIR; to use that you either need a computer that can run Devialet's AIR virtual sound card software, or Roon which has support for AIR built in.
Maybe others will spot something I've missed? Roon (Mac Mini), Wilson Benesch Full Circle, Expert 1000 Pro CI, Kaiser Chiara
Warwickshire, UK
01-Dec-2020, 22:56
(01-Dec-2020, 22:50)thumb5 Wrote: I don't think that will be possible, because the Node won't have any built-in way to "talk to" the Devialet to send it the audio stream. As far as I know, the only way you can send music over the network to an Expert (or Pro without Core Infinity) is using Devialet AIR; to use that you either need a computer that can run Devialet's AIR virtual sound card software, or Roon which has support for AIR built in. Based on what I've learned over the past couple of days, what you said indeed makes sense. It would be up to BlueOS to be able to integrate the Devialet drivers to send music via a network cable, indeed.
02-Dec-2020, 08:05
(01-Dec-2020, 22:02)docvale Wrote:(01-Dec-2020, 20:57)David A Wrote:(01-Dec-2020, 16:01)docvale Wrote: Hi guys, Valerio, If you've been spinning discs for 20+ years and have a small file collection in Apple Lossless, I'm not surprised that you're interested in being able to stream your own files as well as accessing streaming services. My only concerns with the Node is its inability to stream to the Devialet via ethernet and its lack of a USB output. You do have optical and coax digital outputs but I don't think they're as good as ethernet or wifi but I do think the Node should give you an easy entry into streaming and some time with it may well help clarify your ideas of just where you want to go with streaming in the future. Roon Nucleus+, Devilalet Expert 140 Pro CI, Focal Sopra 2, PS Audio P12, Keces P8 LPS, Uptone Audio EtherREGEN with optical fibre link to my router, Shunyata Alpha NR and Sigma NR power cables, Shunyata Sigma ethernet cables, Shunyata Alpha V2 speaker cables, Grand Prix Audio Monaco rack, RealTRAPS acoustic treatment.
Brisbane, Qld, Australia
02-Dec-2020, 14:55
I hear you, David.
I'm sure that, if/once the system were all setup, I'd run some experiments to compare the Node+Devialet with ethernet (driven by my wife's laptop - I won't be able from mine as long as Devialet does not release a Big Sure compatible app -). I cannot hide that using a "primitive" connection is not the most exciting thing. But I also know that it could suffice to give listening enjoyment. Over the past few years - undoubtedly also because of the reasons of above - the idea to handle my computer to play music was a deterrent. Indeed, I had mostly streamed random Pandora stations for laziness!
27-Mar-2021, 19:09
Just hooked up a Roon nucleus + and am streaming Tidal through Ethernet to my Expert 400. It was literally plug and play. Shocked and delighted. Not analog but a lot better than a Sonos Connect via TosLink.
28-Mar-2021, 21:14
(27-Mar-2021, 19:09)tcutter Wrote: Just hooked up a Roon nucleus + and am streaming Tidal through Ethernet to my Expert 400. It was literally plug and play. Shocked and delighted. Not analog but a lot better than a Sonos Connect via TosLink. Thanks for your feedback. I ended up purchasing an Expert 120 and I hooked it to a Node 2i via SPDIF coaxial. I'm happy with the convenience of the interface and the absence of any extra cost for the software. I tried a (rather casual, actually) comparison of the SPDIF connection vs my Macbook pro via USB: I haven't noticed any advantage of the USB to make me questioning the quality of the sound via the Node 2i. Happily, I can say I've never had such a good sounding setup (despite I need to push the volume a tad higher than what I would have expected).
16-Apr-2021, 22:40
(27-Mar-2021, 19:09)tcutter Wrote: Just hooked up a Roon nucleus + and am streaming Tidal through Ethernet to my Expert 400. It was literally plug and play. Shocked and delighted. Not analog but a lot better than a Sonos Connect via TosLink. If you wouldn't mind a sub-rookie question, and a long-winded one a that— I have a Devialet Expert 200, so no Core Infinity. I would stream from my MacBookPro (loaded with many, many ALAC files, some Redbook CD, some higher-res) to the Devialet via AirPlay, but Devialet doesn't "do" AirPlay for my MacOS, which is BigSur, or indeed, for any MacOS post-Catalina. I have not heard any noise from Devialet that they are working on, or even have a desire to work on, AirPlay for newer MacOSes. (Please correct me if I'm wrong!) In the meanwhile, I'm using the digital output of my Sony HAP-Z1ES music server to connect to the Devialet via USB 2.0. What I'm wondering is: if I were to acquire a Roon Nucleus+, and put my ALAC files on it, would I be able to • stream from the Nucleus+ to the Devialet via AirPlay? • or, failing that, connect the Nucleus+ to the Devialet via Ethernet? • and would that set-up allow me to access hi-res streaming (e.g., Tidal) via the Nucleus+? Grateful for clarification, even as I'm apologetic for my cluelessness here. With thanks for your time and attention, Howard.
17-Apr-2021, 10:00
@howardrodman - You are correct, the "Non Pro" Expert does not support AirPlay, and there is little to suggest it ever will have this functionality.
This should not be a huge problem though, because Devialet AIR streaming, which your "Non-Pro" Expert does support either by hard wired Ethernet or by WiFi, is technically superior to AirPlay. Roon works well with the Expert. Roon has Devialet AIR built in. In fact, you do not even need a Nucleus, you could run Roon core on your Mac, and then either use hard wired Ethernet or WiFi, and your Mac should stream to the Devialet without issue. Of course, a Roon Nucleus would also work, and might afford some advantages. If nothing else, it is a dedicated item for audio and takes the Mac out of the chain. This might be more convenient for you. Streaming via Devialet AIR will allow you to stream anything up to 24/192. DSD64 works also, but is not officially supported by Devialet. Another factor is sound quality. Opinions vary on this one, but I much preferred the sound quality of my Expert via Devialet AIR in comparison to USB. In theory, you should not even need Roon. You could load the Devialet AIR app onto your Mac and it than acts like a virtual soundcard streaming to your Devialet. There have been reports from some of the Mac users on this forum that there is an issue with the Devialet app and the latest Mac OS. It is very disappointing that Devialet have not resolved this issue. (I presume this issue is still unresolved? I do not use a Mac for audio, maybe other can advise re this point) Anyway, the above issue is why Roon is your friend here, by having the Devialet AIR driver built in. Roon has a 14 day free trial, so at least you can try before you buy and see if you like it and if it works for you. 1000 Pro - KEF Blade - iFi Zen Stream - Mutec REF10 - MC3+USB - Pro-Ject Signature 12
17-Apr-2021, 14:48
I totally agree with @Confused . Using Roon and streaming via Devialet AIR will not only get you best sound but it should prove to be rock solid. And, of course, there’s a ton of other benefits from using Roon.
If you opt to not use Roon yet go with the Devialet AIR app, it would likely work but, in my experience on a PC, it is just not as stable and Devialet hasn’t released any updates for the PC or Mac AIR drivers in a long time. Devialet 440 Pro (two 220s)- Oracle CD transport - Kuzma Stabi S/Stogi S turntable - Von Schweikert VR-35 speakers - JPS SC3 SCs - PI Audio power conditioning -
Triode Wire Labs ICs and PCs - Roon on NUC 8i7beh running ROCK Durham, NC USA
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