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Downgrade to Phantom
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(07-Sep-2015, 01:30)deviousalet Wrote:
(06-Sep-2015, 23:26)IanG-UK Wrote: I'd also suggest that my experience in favouring the Phantoms, having used Expert 800/Magicos, might be a more comfortable experience than had I only used Phantoms and then later tried Expert 800/Magicos. 

Would you elaborate on that please? I have a date to audition the Phantom and also Magico next week.

Hi deviousalet

I've clarified my previous post since it could be read that I thought Phantom was better than 800/Magico, which I think it is not.

What we each listen for will be different, beyond the fundamental things like a good degree of neutrality and space recreation.

There is also, in my opinion, other non-aural factors which impact us in different ways. For example, I like equipment to be minimal and speakers to be small, so that the visual distractions are minimised. Whereas there are some who like a room full of McIntosh.

The Phantom is as minimal as it gets; and you cannot play around with it at all - no configurator, no subwoofer - just a music selector and a volume control. 

As for the sound, the 800s and Magico Q1s, fed from a MacBook, give (in my opinion) a slightly more complete and relaxing sound than the Phantom, fed from a MacBook. In my way of explaining things, it means the brain has less to do in fully enjoying the sound - as though one was at the live musical event. One is more easily immersed.

You may listen differently, so that may not help!

From a value perspective, £7.5k on the Phantom system versus £70k on the 800/Magico system just makes one think.
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Downgrade to Phantom - by windler - 02-Sep-2015, 18:14
RE: Downgrade to Phantom - by fgueho - 02-Sep-2015, 18:43
RE: Downgrade to Phantom - by Bogardo - 02-Sep-2015, 22:37
RE: Downgrade to Phantom - by mixart - 02-Sep-2015, 22:40
RE: Downgrade to Phantom - by Bogardo - 02-Sep-2015, 23:04
RE: Downgrade to Phantom - by f1eng - 02-Sep-2015, 20:03
RE: Downgrade to Phantom - by Hifi_swlon - 06-Sep-2015, 21:54
RE: Downgrade to Phantom - by rjalder - 29-Sep-2015, 03:44
RE: Downgrade to Phantom - by streamy - 02-Sep-2015, 23:17
RE: Downgrade to Phantom - by trashken - 03-Sep-2015, 04:44
RE: Downgrade to Phantom - by Phs - 03-Sep-2015, 09:09
RE: Downgrade to Phantom - by Tristan - 03-Sep-2015, 08:00
RE: Downgrade to Phantom - by michirishi - 03-Sep-2015, 12:37
RE: Downgrade to Phantom - by fgueho - 06-Sep-2015, 22:41
RE: Downgrade to Phantom - by IanG-UK - 06-Sep-2015, 23:26
RE: Downgrade to Phantom - by deviousalet - 07-Sep-2015, 01:30
RE: Downgrade to Phantom - by IanG-UK - 07-Sep-2015, 10:47
RE: Downgrade to Phantom - by Hifi_swlon - 07-Sep-2015, 15:41
RE: Downgrade to Phantom - by fgueho - 07-Sep-2015, 16:11
RE: Downgrade to Phantom - by f1eng - 07-Sep-2015, 16:19
RE: Downgrade to Phantom - by Gremlin - 07-Sep-2015, 16:16
RE: Downgrade to Phantom - by fgueho - 07-Sep-2015, 16:18
RE: Downgrade to Phantom - by bva - 07-Sep-2015, 21:00
RE: Downgrade to Phantom - by Felix - 08-Sep-2015, 14:12
RE: Downgrade to Phantom - by rjalder - 29-Sep-2015, 03:56
RE: Downgrade to Phantom - by windler - 09-Sep-2015, 21:54
RE: Downgrade to Phantom - by bva - 23-Sep-2015, 21:10
Downgrade to Phantom - by sleach - 29-Sep-2015, 04:14
RE: Downgrade to Phantom - by Damon - 29-Sep-2015, 05:19
RE: Downgrade to Phantom - by f1eng - 29-Sep-2015, 14:06

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