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SAM and its troubles
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(14-Jun-2014, 07:35)Mohmm Wrote: Well, that surprises me. Could it be that your DRC does not eliminate the room modes? There is virtually no difference between only SAM and SAM+DRC.... But perhaps, that has has to do with your use of a subwoofer.

Thanks anyway.

As a rejoinder: I am using Dirac on my non-SAMed speakers and there is a clear reduction in room resonances.

Hi Mohmm,

Well, you must not be surprised. As you stated, that has to do with my use of a subwoofer. My room correction is only active on the subwoofer. When I use SAM on my Kefs, I can not use the high pass of the Devialet (that is not possible in the configurator), so the bass of the Kefs sums up with the bass of the subwoofer and the room modes are there again.
So I prefer using the Kefs without SAM, but with a high pass at 70 hz/ 2. Order and let the corrected subwoofer do the low bass.
Dirac is no option for me, because it does not correct my vinyl source :-).

(14-Jun-2014, 03:12)pete86 Wrote: Beerman,
Very interesting. Any chance you can take measurements with just the LS50, with and without SAM?

Hi pete86,

I have measurements without SAM (first picture) and with SAM (second picture). The graphs doesn`t differ much, but it is clearly an audible difference between SAM/noSAM.

   
Kef LS50 without SAM

   
KefLS50 plus SAM

If I have to to choose I would clearly prefer Kef plus SAM by listening, if I have to listen without a subwoofer.
But as you can see there are room modes, so I prefer the combination with a dsp-corrected subwoofer. See the next picture:

   
Kef LS50 with dsp-corrected sub (no SAM)
Linn LP12 Sondek + Radikal + Urika + Ekos II + EMT HSD006 - roon nucleus + SBooster - Devialet 220 Pro CI - Kef LS50 - Dspeaker Antimode 8033s II + SBooster - Kef KF92 Subwoofer

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Messages In This Thread
SAM and its troubles - by Mohmm - 13-Jun-2014, 15:47
RE: SAM and its troubles - by Eddye - 13-Jun-2014, 16:32
RE: SAM and its troubles - by Jwg1749 - 13-Jun-2014, 16:48
RE: SAM and its troubles - by Mohmm - 13-Jun-2014, 16:54
RE: SAM and its troubles - by beerman - 13-Jun-2014, 17:04
RE: SAM and its troubles - by Mohmm - 13-Jun-2014, 19:48
RE: SAM and its troubles - by beerman - 13-Jun-2014, 21:23
RE: SAM and its troubles - by Mohmm - 14-Jun-2014, 07:35
RE: SAM and its troubles - by beerman - 14-Jun-2014, 09:02
RE: SAM and its troubles - by pete86 - 14-Jun-2014, 03:12
RE: SAM and its troubles - by GuillaumeB - 18-Jun-2014, 12:36
RE: SAM and its troubles - by flohmann - 19-Jun-2014, 01:34

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