Interesting reading your experience(s).
I ran panels for several years (Apogee active Divas) and I still miss them, but the only place to put them in this room they blocked too much light.
Also, whilst the stereo effect was very enjoyable on recordings I hadn't made
, the recordings of my own did, however, show that it was probably an artefact of the rear wave bouncing off the rear wall rather than something they were revealing on the recording, so whilst I loved them in general I started feeling I needed something which added rather less of my own room to the sound!
I completely agree that it is very difficult to get sound with as little overhang from a conventional speaker, particularly in the bass, and I spent 2 years searching for something as fast as the Apogees which used the room less to create an effect.
I ended up shortlisting Wilson, Goldmund and B&W speakers, listening to the WAMM, Grand Slamm, Apologue, Analogue, Epilog and the beautiful Nautilus.
I ended up with Goldmund Epilogs, but they have increased in price to a ridiculous extent since then. I now also have some front loaded horns. They are supremely "fast" and fairly directional, so they minimise any addition of listening room acoustics.
The only thing I would say is that the "fastest" moving coil speakers I heard during my 2 years listenathon had very rigid cabinets.
The BBC box speakers had fabulous mid range, great on speech with limited dynamic range and loudness but were all either a bit or very slow sounding on dynamic orchestral music, particularly if played loud.
I was unable to pigeonhole any other aspect than cabinet rigidity. I heard speakers with metal, plastic and paper drivers some good some disappointing, so I don't think the cone material had the key effect here, personally.
They will probably never be SAMmed, but if you are looking for something with very inert cabinets which are not very expensive the Q-Acoustics Concept 20 and 40 were cleverly engineered to minimise cabinet talk by Fink Audio Consulting who design very much more expensive speakers for other clients as well, though the others do not admit it publicly...
I should say I met one of the partners of Fink Consulting back in 1999 when I was doing some design for Lola cars and he is now a friend of mine and I like to think I was at least partially responsible for them looking into minimising cabinet talk.
So I may be biased
http://fink-audio.com
I ran panels for several years (Apogee active Divas) and I still miss them, but the only place to put them in this room they blocked too much light.
Also, whilst the stereo effect was very enjoyable on recordings I hadn't made
, the recordings of my own did, however, show that it was probably an artefact of the rear wave bouncing off the rear wall rather than something they were revealing on the recording, so whilst I loved them in general I started feeling I needed something which added rather less of my own room to the sound!I completely agree that it is very difficult to get sound with as little overhang from a conventional speaker, particularly in the bass, and I spent 2 years searching for something as fast as the Apogees which used the room less to create an effect.
I ended up shortlisting Wilson, Goldmund and B&W speakers, listening to the WAMM, Grand Slamm, Apologue, Analogue, Epilog and the beautiful Nautilus.
I ended up with Goldmund Epilogs, but they have increased in price to a ridiculous extent since then. I now also have some front loaded horns. They are supremely "fast" and fairly directional, so they minimise any addition of listening room acoustics.
The only thing I would say is that the "fastest" moving coil speakers I heard during my 2 years listenathon had very rigid cabinets.
The BBC box speakers had fabulous mid range, great on speech with limited dynamic range and loudness but were all either a bit or very slow sounding on dynamic orchestral music, particularly if played loud.
I was unable to pigeonhole any other aspect than cabinet rigidity. I heard speakers with metal, plastic and paper drivers some good some disappointing, so I don't think the cone material had the key effect here, personally.
They will probably never be SAMmed, but if you are looking for something with very inert cabinets which are not very expensive the Q-Acoustics Concept 20 and 40 were cleverly engineered to minimise cabinet talk by Fink Audio Consulting who design very much more expensive speakers for other clients as well, though the others do not admit it publicly...
I should say I met one of the partners of Fink Consulting back in 1999 when I was doing some design for Lola cars and he is now a friend of mine and I like to think I was at least partially responsible for them looking into minimising cabinet talk.
So I may be biased
http://fink-audio.com
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