23-May-2015, 22:55
(19-May-2015, 23:31)NickB Wrote:(19-May-2015, 23:05)Confused Wrote:(19-May-2015, 22:35)Hifi_swlon Wrote: 8 configs don't seem backwards compatible. I keep all mine but I'd left the 8 one on there and 7.1.1 didn't like it and forced factory defaults.
Again, not really very tidily done - all a bit rushed if you ask me. It doesnt take long to get a reputation as a company that releases half baked things. I do hope Devialet stop the trend soon.
This is an interesting point. So it looks like if you prefer 7.1.1 or 7.1.3 (what happened to 7.1.2?), then basically you are stuck with any configurations you have saved on SD cards or your computer. That is, if you try to make a revised configuration on the "V8" configurator, then this won't work with 7.1.1. So no tweaking phono stage settings for a new cartridge etc. This seems a bit odd, and what about D Premier users, who can't use all the new V8 toys anyway?
Regards to all this being rushed, I have to agree. It seams to be all "no sleep 'till Munich" for Devialet. Ok, they got all this new stuff released on time, but there appears to be very little information on the website explaining the new features and options (such as implications of enabling or disabling the power management), just a bunch of TLA's. The only real information I've seen is from the users of this forum, based in no small part on trial and error. So a very well done to the many who posted good information here, and poor show Devialet.
We don't think that the rushing would have anything to do with the constant moaning on this forum about the expert series being forgotten - the only development is on the Phantom - we spent all this money and they have forgotten us - we haven't had an update for ages etc etc etc and on and on and on and on !!!!!
And then when they do everyone moans about the fact that they have been given an update but they are incapable of copying a few files to a memory card and plugging it into the machine. Not sure how much training you need to do that.
If I was them I would give up the whole thing and leave you all with your completely useless amps. Oh no wait a minute they still are the best sounding amps you can get aren't they.
By the way no one has actually said that there was a change in sound from 7.1.1 to 7.1.3 it was assumed and is probably as real as the differences between usb cables.
(23-May-2015, 22:12)runlonger Wrote:(23-May-2015, 22:03)Rob35 Wrote: Is there any information about what ICM does? It seems to be acting on compression/limiting of the incoming signal. When comparing on and off settings when watching a movie the reduction in dynamic range is not subtle so compression settings seem to be quite extreme. If this also happens to music when it is on by default this is not good. Most people who are not happy with firmware 8.0 don't seem to complain however about dynamic range being reduced but more about music sounding more digital/harsh. So this is not likely to be the full explanation.
As far as I know not officially. My guess is that the Devialet somehow is able detect dynamically if there is a voice or not. When they detect the voice the signal stays the same (at least I could not hear any changes in my experiment sample), but when there is no voice the higher frequencies are reduced, hence quieter. So I think its not a compression while playing voices, but I am not sure. The effect is certainly dynamic and dependent on the content.
It would be nice if Devialet provided a few snippets of information wouldn't it? iCM, RAM, firmware versions etc. it's all trial an error between us at the moment.