29-May-2016, 14:41
(28-May-2016, 17:13)pdg540 Wrote:Yes, a Win 10 tablet will run Roon (core) and AIR. AIR is just another protocol to stream over your local area network, whether it be via wifi or ethernet cable. I would be a bit concerned if you will use a two-hop wifi (tablet via wifi and Devialet via wifi). But hey, give it a shot. If you've got good and uncluttered wifi, it might work fine. If using a tablet, where is your music stored? Word of caution... if you get it working but occasionally hear stuttering in the music, it is likely the result of using wifi. If possible, get an ethernet connection from your tablet to router, or router to Devialet to reduce the wifi hops.(28-May-2016, 13:53)mdconnelly Wrote:(28-May-2016, 02:05)hk6230 Wrote: Hi Mike, I believe most people are aware of the potential or existing issues with AIR. Frankly, it is an option most people will prefer if it works flawlessly, unfortunately, it isn't. For me AIR2.1.3 works almost perfect but the newly public-beta AIR3.0 doesn't work too well in my environment.
I'm sure uRendu works well as it's a "wired" connection to Devialet. This can be achieved simply with an USB cable connection to Devialet, too. SQ-wise, though, is all very subjective. But, this will means more boxes for uRendu and placement of server inflexibility for direct USB connection. AIR offers us the freedom to place music server, audio renderer, and Devialet anyway in the same network, and no other boxes and/or interconnects added.
Each option has its pros and cons.
Agreed that there's plenty already said about AIR. My intent was to help new users like pdg540 avoid some of the frustration I experienced. As a newbie, I thought that my early failed attempts with AIR were problems with my network or setup. When I discovered DevialetChat and saw similar issues posted here, I actually felt a bit relieved (but yeah, a bit frustrated given the time wasted ;-)
The concept and simplicity of AIR is extremely compelling and it sounds great when it works. So yes... give AIR a try, but if it doesn't work well for you, find a solution that does. Or simply wait for the formal release of AIR 3.
AIR/WIFI is, of course, my first choice. My fingers are crossed. I'm understanding that ethernet connections also must have AIR installed and rely on it the same as WIFI? In any case, I do have an oppo 103 BDP that I will use as back up (roonless) streaming device so I shant be without. I am familiar with Sonore as I was looking at the sonic orbiter a while ago.
A quick question: If I had a Windows 10 tablet of some sort, could I run Roon (core) and AIR on it. Seems like a pretty nice, simple. portable solution.
Unfortunately, in my home, even back when I was just using LMS and an SB Touch, streaming via wifi would routinely result in stuttering particularly if I was streaming hi-res music, so I ultimately ran ethernet throughout.
Regarding AIR... I did find that running Roon (core) on my desktop system and RoonBridge on a separate laptop with AIR installed and running on the laptop seemed to improve the stability of AIR. My guess is that AIR is more stable on a PC that is doing less, but that's just a guess. Unfortunately, I was never able to fully eliminate the white noise that AIR periodically causes hence my switch to using a uRendu.
Good luck!
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