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Vibration Control
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(29-Feb-2016, 15:33)ciptip Wrote:
(29-Feb-2016, 14:13)TDA Wrote: Hello all,

i have now had my Ansuz hooked up for 5 days. what i got was following.

Diamond puks for D400
diamond  puks for Moon mind
Diamond adjustable pucks for Speakers.

Diamond D8 power stripe
Ceramic power cable for power stripe
aluminium pucks/holder for speaker cables
aluminium pucks/ holder for power cables.

We started by hooking up the speakers. My speakers was not on spikes before, so here i imagined there would be a  great improvement. Emmidiatly here i got a much better sound. Bas got much much better, and the sound stage improved. BUT my speakers was not on spikes before.

Then we installed the pucks under the devs and moon mind. The installer heard a big improvement. I couldn't hear anything. We removed them and installed them over again a couple a times, and i couldn't hear anything at all. He said that there was a much more controlled sound.... not to me.

then we installed the powerstripe. This was an improvement, that i could heat. It was like the amps got much more power. now it all began to sound better.

Last we installed the cable holders/Pucks and it was like the sound moved in front of my face and now the sound was very very good.

here in the weekend i then removed it all backwards, and the sound dissapered instantly when i removed the first bits. and you cannot really tell what does what. I can only say this.

In total it is a big improvement of sound. before my sound was very booming and sometimes a tad to bright. On my devs i had the tonal balance to bass -4,5 and the treble to +2 to compensate for my room acoustics. But with all the ansuz the sound became more alligned i i could easaly get the devs back to 0 on the tonal balance. There was much more control over the sound and the sound was very very correct. 3D soundimage was perfect and very precise bass.

But hear comes the negative part. By removing just one leg of all these tweeks, the good sound dissaperes. it's like they only work together. I could only hear an improvement when it all is installed. It is hard to explain, but i talked with the shop today, and he agreed with my impression. it is minimal in the different areas, but big in total.

i am sorry to say that i am actually dissapointed. I am not blown away as i was promised. Only when all is installed. and i have 20500 euros worth of Ansuz installed right now. Is it an improvements.. Yes... Is it woth the money... not really.

I think the price is to high for these improvements. I would rather buy a motorcycle or a nice gold rolex and use 2000 euros on acoustic treatment in my room.

if you can get a good price on these things, then fine. But to my MY EARS it is really minimal what the pucks do per gear. it is only an improvement in total.

If i should recommend a piece it must be the powerstripe D8. but it is stil 3000 euros without a powercord. And the powercord i used was 4000 euros. So can i really recommend it... no..

sorry for the bad english and typing mistakes.. I am at work

Hello TDA, that looks like a fair account to me, thanks indeed! I fully understand your disappointment given the price asked and the not so surprising effects, after all. I understand there's still a lot to investigate the physics of materials (all these fancy coatings and newly graphene conductors, wolfram mixtures, etc), but what looks appealing and logical at first hand should not necessarily bring an incremental effect, especially given the price ratio with the system installed.

Exactly..

I am not a professionel. I can only write my own experiences. And on some of the pucks I couldn't really tell the difference. But in a combination... Then yes...

But 20-30000 euros... Come on.. Maybe other brands can do the same for much much less.

I sort of miss my bang and Olufsen system. Coming home to it everyday was such a treat. It looked good and played very good. You just pushed play and enjoyed.. Here you press play and always listen and thinking "how could this sound better"...


Messages In This Thread
Vibration Control - by Stigmater - 11-Jan-2016, 11:21
RE: Vibration Control - by hk6230 - 11-Jan-2016, 11:38
RE: Vibration Control - by warpeon - 11-Jan-2016, 14:11
RE: Vibration Control - by samurai7595 - 11-Jan-2016, 15:13
Vibration Control - by hk6230 - 11-Jan-2016, 15:48
Vibration Control - by hk6230 - 11-Jan-2016, 15:49
RE: Vibration Control - by Antoine - 11-Jan-2016, 16:01
RE: Vibration Control - by samurai7595 - 11-Jan-2016, 16:47
RE: Vibration Control - by Gentleman - 11-Jan-2016, 17:33
RE: Vibration Control - by Womaz - 11-Jan-2016, 17:57
RE: Vibration Control - by Rufus McDufus - 11-Jan-2016, 18:43
RE: Vibration Control - by octaviars - 11-Jan-2016, 18:53
RE: Vibration Control - by Rufus McDufus - 11-Jan-2016, 19:06
RE: Vibration Control - by Gentleman - 11-Jan-2016, 18:59
RE: Vibration Control - by Sobert - 11-Jan-2016, 19:16
RE: Vibration Control - by Robert - 16-Jan-2016, 09:50
RE: Vibration Control - by NickB - 16-Jan-2016, 10:22
RE: Vibration Control - by Confused - 16-Jan-2016, 15:06
RE: Vibration Control - by Morten - 16-Jan-2016, 10:34
RE: Vibration Control - by Hifi_swlon - 16-Jan-2016, 15:04
RE: Vibration Control - by NickB - 16-Jan-2016, 17:41
Vibration Control - by BjornWiman - 16-Jan-2016, 20:53
RE: Vibration Control - by octaviars - 17-Jan-2016, 21:45
Vibration Control - by hk6230 - 18-Jan-2016, 00:39
RE: Vibration Control - by octaviars - 20-Jan-2016, 17:34
RE: Vibration Control - by octaviars - 29-Jan-2016, 20:13
RE: Vibration Control - by Stigmater - 29-Jan-2016, 21:44
RE: Vibration Control - by octaviars - 29-Jan-2016, 22:09
RE: Vibration Control - by Rufus McDufus - 29-Jan-2016, 22:10
RE: Vibration Control - by octaviars - 29-Jan-2016, 22:36
RE: Vibration Control - by GuillaumeB - 03-Feb-2016, 13:55
RE: Vibration Control - by octaviars - 03-Feb-2016, 20:21
RE: Vibration Control - by GuillaumeB - 13-Feb-2016, 12:39
RE: Vibration Control - by octaviars - 13-Feb-2016, 12:48
RE: Vibration Control - by DVLA - 04-Feb-2016, 09:54
RE: Vibration Control - by rwjr44 - 04-Feb-2016, 17:14
RE: Vibration Control - by Petter - 05-Feb-2016, 10:55
Vibration Control - by Bob58 - 14-Feb-2016, 22:28
RE: Vibration Control - by octaviars - 15-Feb-2016, 08:18
RE: Vibration Control - by GuillaumeB - 15-Feb-2016, 09:00
RE: Vibration Control - by TDA - 18-Feb-2016, 16:57
RE: Vibration Control - by GuillaumeB - 18-Feb-2016, 16:59
Vibration Control - by Bob58 - 15-Feb-2016, 23:47
Vibration Control - by TDA - 18-Feb-2016, 18:19
RE: Vibration Control - by octaviars - 18-Feb-2016, 18:32
Vibration Control - by TDA - 18-Feb-2016, 19:07
RE: Vibration Control - by TDA - 19-Feb-2016, 12:48
RE: Vibration Control - by octaviars - 19-Feb-2016, 13:06
RE: Vibration Control - by TDA - 19-Feb-2016, 13:16
RE: Vibration Control - by octaviars - 19-Feb-2016, 13:21
RE: Vibration Control - by TDA - 19-Feb-2016, 13:38
RE: Vibration Control - by octaviars - 19-Feb-2016, 13:51
RE: Vibration Control - by TDA - 19-Feb-2016, 14:01
RE: Vibration Control - by octaviars - 19-Feb-2016, 14:44
RE: Vibration Control - by TDA - 19-Feb-2016, 15:09
RE: Vibration Control - by wikeeboy - 20-Feb-2016, 13:40
RE: Vibration Control - by GuillaumeB - 20-Feb-2016, 14:12
RE: Vibration Control - by TDA - 20-Feb-2016, 19:57
RE: Vibration Control - by yabaVR - 21-Feb-2016, 13:26
Vibration Control - by TDA - 21-Feb-2016, 13:40
RE: Vibration Control - by yabaVR - 21-Feb-2016, 15:23
RE: Vibration Control - by octaviars - 21-Feb-2016, 15:42
RE: Vibration Control - by TDA - 21-Feb-2016, 16:04
Vibration Control - by TDA - 24-Feb-2016, 14:00
RE: Vibration Control - by Mikeeo - 25-Feb-2016, 08:35
RE: Vibration Control - by ciptip - 25-Feb-2016, 10:41
RE: Vibration Control - by TDA - 25-Feb-2016, 14:55
RE: Vibration Control - by Rufus McDufus - 24-Feb-2016, 14:20
RE: Vibration Control - by G51 - 24-Feb-2016, 14:39
RE: Vibration Control - by octaviars - 25-Feb-2016, 09:14
RE: Vibration Control - by TDA - 25-Feb-2016, 14:51
RE: Vibration Control - by Bob58 - 26-Feb-2016, 19:46
RE: Vibration Control - by octaviars - 26-Feb-2016, 21:09
RE: Vibration Control - by TDA - 29-Feb-2016, 14:13
RE: Vibration Control - by ciptip - 29-Feb-2016, 15:33
RE: Vibration Control - by octaviars - 29-Feb-2016, 14:58
Vibration Control - by TDA - 29-Feb-2016, 17:30
RE: Vibration Control - by Antoine - 29-Feb-2016, 17:59
RE: Vibration Control - by octaviars - 29-Feb-2016, 18:33
Vibration Control - by TDA - 29-Feb-2016, 18:58
RE: Vibration Control - by Finn - 29-Feb-2016, 21:18
RE: Vibration Control - by Confused - 29-Feb-2016, 22:41
RE: Vibration Control - by Petter - 29-Feb-2016, 22:48
RE: Vibration Control - by Confused - 29-Feb-2016, 22:55
Vibration Control - by TDA - 29-Feb-2016, 22:52
RE: Vibration Control - by Confused - 29-Feb-2016, 23:02
RE: Vibration Control - by GuillaumeB - 29-Feb-2016, 23:06
RE: Vibration Control - by Confused - 29-Feb-2016, 23:38
RE: Vibration Control - by GuillaumeB - 01-Mar-2016, 09:06
RE: Vibration Control - by Confused - 29-Feb-2016, 23:16
RE: Vibration Control - by Antoine - 29-Feb-2016, 23:27
RE: Vibration Control - by Hifi_swlon - 29-Feb-2016, 23:58
RE: Vibration Control - by El_Duderino - 01-Mar-2016, 03:02
Vibration Control - by TDA - 01-Mar-2016, 06:47
RE: Vibration Control - by octaviars - 01-Mar-2016, 07:44
RE: Vibration Control - by GuillaumeB - 01-Mar-2016, 09:03
RE: Vibration Control - by yabaVR - 01-Mar-2016, 16:18
RE: Vibration Control - by Confused - 01-Mar-2016, 21:14
RE: Vibration Control - by GuillaumeB - 01-Mar-2016, 21:21
RE: Vibration Control - by Confused - 01-Mar-2016, 21:46
RE: Vibration Control - by yabaVR - 02-Mar-2016, 09:55
RE: Vibration Control - by Hifi_swlon - 02-Mar-2016, 10:16
RE: Vibration Control - by GuillaumeB - 02-Mar-2016, 10:20
Vibration Control - by TDA - 01-Mar-2016, 20:52
Vibration Control - by TDA - 01-Mar-2016, 20:54
Vibration Control - by hk6230 - 01-Mar-2016, 22:33
RE: Vibration Control - by El_Duderino - 02-Mar-2016, 04:59
Vibration Control - by TDA - 02-Mar-2016, 07:02
RE: Vibration Control - by Hifi_swlon - 02-Mar-2016, 09:21

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