(24-Dec-2014, 12:41)GuillaumeB Wrote:(24-Dec-2014, 05:36)nfnc Wrote: My experience with the Devialets have been rather mixed. D-Premiers monos into Raidho D1 were rather decent if somewhat clinical and dry sounding. D200 into Raidho D2 lacked body, harmonics and texture plus had a mist/haze overlay - it did not help that the dealer had inadvertently swapped the L/R channels, used an unbroken in unit with the CD source some 4+ meters away from the D200.
Subsequently, at a local hi-fi show, I heard the Ensemble (D120 + Atohm). From a brief listen, it sounded quite amazing and so unlike the previous encounters. Surely an "integrated" active system with DSP crossovers would be able to improve upon that? It is conceptually similar to the Grimm Audio LS1/LS1s but at about 1/6th the price.
I think what you are effectively intimating is that setup is massively important with the Devialets. I've also heard Devialets sound thin/dry/bright, including with some decent speaker combinations.
Get them properly optimised (and in some cases that includes running in!) and they sound out of this world.
Cheers
Guillaume
Thanks. You have hit in on the head better than me.
2/3 of the lesser experiences were with Raidho speakers, using Ansuz cabling, and at the local distributor/dealer for Devialet/Raidho/Ansuz. The assumption must be that they do know how to set up the system, so it's puzzling. I really like the Devialet concept and technology behind it, so it's quite discouraging thus far. Back to the listening board then.
On optimisation, if Devialet can extend their achievements with the Devialet Ensemble to the Phantom, then, assuming that the drivers and enclosures and the sound of ADH chip is comparable to the D series innards, Devialet may have an over reaching product in their hands.
If the Phantoms can sound remotely close (possible?) to what I might be able achieve with, say, a Devialet 200/Accuphase E600 with Avantgarde Uno Fino/Magico S1/S3 and my existing Lumin A1, I would seriously consider the Phantoms even as a main system, despite the lifestyle product image.
Time will tell, and it is good that a number of users here have already ordered the Phantom and the Dialog.
(01-Jan-2015, 07:37)nfnc Wrote: If the Phantoms can sound remotely close (possible?) to what I might be able achieve with, say, a Devialet 200/Accuphase E600 with Avantgarde Uno Fino/Magico S1/S3 and my existing Lumin A1, I would seriously consider the Phantoms even as a main system, despite the lifestyle product image.
Time will tell, and it is good that a number of users here have already ordered the Phantom and the Dialog.
Or even the Grimm Audio LS1/LS1s, which employ a similar concept.
