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Internet switches
#1
I need to buy a new internet switch.  This is for the simple reason that I now need a box with at least 7 connections, my current box has 6.  I am wondering what is the best type to go for between managed and unmanaged switches?  (This is not my area of expertise)  My priority is to get AIR Ethernet as stable as possible.  I have been getting the odd drop out recently, which is strange because in the past I more or less had zero drop outs and I have made no major changes to my set up.  It is a bit of a long shot to think that a new switch will solve this issue, but I need to replace anyway.

The current switch is connected to normal domestic kit, smart TV, Tivo box, Blueray player, Devialet etc.  it is in a simple set up, where the router is hard wired to a switch box, to the kit mentioned above.

Any advice or recommendations?
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(07-Mar-2015, 18:34)Confused Wrote: RI need to buy a new internet switch.  This is for the simple reason that I now need a box with at least 7 connections, my current box has 6.  I am wondering what is the best type to go for between managed and unmanaged switches?  (This is not my area of expertise)  My priority is to get AIR Ethernet as stable as possible.  I have been getting the odd drop out recently, which is strange because in the past I more or less had zero drop outs and I have made no major changes to my set up.  It is a bit of a long shot to think that a new switch will solve this issue, but I need to replace anyway.

The current switch is connected to normal domestic kit, smart TV, Tivo box, Blueray player, Devialet etc.  it is in a simple set up, where the router is hard wired to a switch box, to the kit mentioned above.

Any advice or recommendations?

Hi there Confused,

I use an 8 Port TP-Link. Has proved to be very reliable - it is unmanaged and plug and play. Following link might be helpful.


http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-LINK-TL-SG108...et++switch


David
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or, as alternative, 
2. Wyred4Sound MS-2 Server, Devialet 1000pro Core Infinity, Theta Jade CD Transport, Pure 702ES Tuner, Wilson-Benesch ACT Speakers, misc cables

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#3
Unless you're going to use the features of a managed switch then you may as well go unmanaged. I have a TP-Link 24-port managed switch, largely as I was going to try some funky stuff with VLANs but the experiments didn't work and I really don't use any of its features! Cheap though, and reliable.
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#4
+1, no need to buy a managed switch
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#5
I just purchased a switch myself, went for a small Asante 8 port switch. Found a pre-loved model for very little money on the local classifieds.
Seems well built, metal casing and is small.

Perhaps check the local classifieds for a good deal, if you do not mind buying used.
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#6
Just a suggestion. If Priority is AIR, do you want to consider browsing Apple Airport Express ?

Can ETH to D and can Internet too. This will also do AIRPLAY from iDevices to AE->-toslink->D
in somewhere in D manual, they kind of comment AE as they simply work and less hassle with the setup if you have iDevices.
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#7
I use a airport time capsule today ,but i can see companies like Linn propose you should use a gigabit switch

Did buy a HP 1810-8G v2 after reading some forums and advices ,but haven't implemented it yet
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX51964

acc to Linn, is the best solution to introduce a dedicated switch that DS and network disc is coupled up with


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(07-Mar-2015, 18:34)Confused Wrote: The current switch is connected to normal domestic kit, smart TV, Tivo box, Blueray player, Devialet etc.  it is in a simple set up, where the router is hard wired to a switch box, to the kit mentioned above.

Any advice or recommendations?

It often recommended to separate the hifi components from others using one or more switches. Could you Do that in your system?

I use a 5 port Netgear GS105 which works fine - they also make an 8 port model - GS108
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#9
Thanks for the feedback. I guess the key to my question was whether or not it was worth getting a managed switch, and somehow prioritising the Devialet via AIR Ethernet. I was half expecting some IT language heavy responses that I didn't fully understand! Although it looks like a rather simpler answer, "no". Thinking about my set up, if I am streaming to AIR, then the chances are that all other devices running off the switch box will be idle. I don't watch IPlayer on the smart TV at the same time as streaming music, for example. So it looks like a cheap and cheerful TP link type device is all I need. It is easy to get carried away with these things though!
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(08-Mar-2015, 11:30)Confused Wrote: Thanks for the feedback. I guess the key to my question was whether or not it was worth getting a managed switch, and somehow prioritising the Devialet via AIR Ethernet. I was half expecting some IT language heavy responses that I didn't fully understand! Although it looks like a rather simpler answer, "no". Thinking about my set up, if I am streaming to AIR, then the chances are that all other devices running off the switch box will be idle. I don't watch IPlayer on the smart TV at the same time as streaming music, for example. So it looks like a cheap and cheerful TP link type device is all I need. It is easy to get carried away with these things though!

If you use a 100 or 1000 MB unmanaged switch you would have to try very hard indeed to swamp the amount of info a 24/192 music file would require for clear transmission. Also the network controllers at each end would sort out any problems with lost packets. The 1 to 2 second delay on the Devialet before music starts on the AIR system allows any errors like this to be sorted.
There is nothing cheap and cheerful about TP Link stuff I recommend their switches and routers to all my home clients but for any SMB's I always use Vigor.
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