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Is there an audible difference streaming files from a NAS compared to build in SSD?
#1
Hi,

is there an audible difference or other things to gain when streaming flac files from a NAS using roon rock (NUC build into akasa silent case) to the Devialet compared to when you store the music files on a (large) SSD build into the roon rock machine itself and play them from there to your Devialet?
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#2
I would have thought that the SSD would run quieter, cooler and more reliably. There should be no difference in the output from Roon to your Devialet.
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(26-Aug-2020, 11:47)Bartype Wrote: Hi,

is there an audible difference or other things to gain when streaming flac files from a NAS using roon rock (NUC build into akasa silent case) to the Devialet compared to when you store the music files on a (large) SSD build into the roon rock machine itself and play them from there to your Devialet?

Not sure if there is a clear answer to your question.

Imo the impact on SQ will depend on the quality of the components in the signal chain (NAS, Switch, NUC, etc.) and the possible negative influence of component induced "noise" of multiple sources. One could make the simple assumption that less sources of noise in the chain would automatically result in better SQ, but I have personally had set-ups, and listening experiences, which are the opposite to that logic.

Convenience and "ease of use" are also sometimes underestimated when considering the listening experience. If you have to power-on numerous components prior to listening and then deal with the occasional (or frequent) quirks in stability related to more complex signal chains, then the enjoyment of just listening to music can be spoiled quite quickly.

Just my subjective opinion but hope it helps ...
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#4
Both SSDs and hard drives do the same job: They boot your system, and store your applications and personal files. But each type of storage has its own unique feature set.
Hard drives win on price and capacity. SSDs work best if speed, ruggedness, form factor, noise, or fragmentation (technically, a subset of speed) are important factors to you. If it weren't for the price and capacity issues, SSDs would be the hands-down winner.
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Thank you for the replies, i will consider what to do (or not) :-)
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(26-Aug-2020, 11:47)Bartype Wrote: Hi,

is there an audible difference or other things to gain when streaming flac files from a NAS using roon rock (NUC build into akasa silent case) to the Devialet compared to when you store the music files on a (large) SSD build into the roon rock machine itself and play them from there to your Devialet?

There is no reason why there could be, except expectation bias or the placebo effect, if you are susceptible/suggestible.
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(01-Sep-2020, 10:01)elisecoen Wrote: Both SSDs and hard drives do the same job: They boot your system, and store your applications and personal files. But each type of storage has its own unique feature set.
Hard drives win on price and capacity. SSDs work best if speed, ruggedness, form factor, noise, or fragmentation (technically, a subset of speed) are important factors to you. If it weren't for the price and capacity issues, SSDs would be the hands-down winner.

I am not sure if that is 100% true.  I have read tests and reports that SSD's are actually noisier than HDD's, in terms of electrical noise at least.  Also, SSD's are not always that reliable.  I have not had a HDD fail for many years, but I did have a failure with an SSD last year.

Quite how much of a difference any electrical noise from an SSD makes to sound quality is of course highly debatable, see F1's post above!
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(26-Aug-2020, 11:47)Bartype Wrote: Hi,

is there an audible difference or other things to gain when streaming flac files from a NAS using roon rock (NUC build into akasa silent case) to the Devialet compared to when you store the music files on a (large) SSD build into the roon rock machine itself and play them from there to your Devialet?


No. None. NADA! There is absolutely no reason there should be any difference in sound quality. Whatsoever. This is all about having adequate capacity for transferring the data you need... which both of the provides.
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(05-Sep-2020, 09:41)Confused Wrote:
(01-Sep-2020, 10:01)elisecoen Wrote: Both SSDs and hard drives do the same job: They boot your system, and store your applications and personal files. But each type of storage has its own unique feature set.
Hard drives win on price and capacity. SSDs work best if speed, ruggedness, form factor, noise, or fragmentation (technically, a subset of speed) are important factors to you. If it weren't for the price and capacity issues, SSDs would be the hands-down winner.

I am not sure if that is 100% true.  I have read tests and reports that SSD's are actually noisier than HDD's, in terms of electrical noise at least.  Also, SSD's are not always that reliable.  I have not had a HDD fail for many years, but I did have a failure with an SSD last year.

Quite how much of a difference any electrical noise from an SSD makes to sound quality is of course highly debatable, see F1's post above!

Electrical noise? Huh? These are not analogue transfers susceptible of static/electrical noise. It is a digital bitstream with error correction good enough to retransmit faulty packages or even correct them if needed... even though it raaaaaaarely happens.
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#10
Theoretically speaking, there should be no difference in the quality of the sound itself.
However, differences may occur indirectly:
- The use of files stored on the network requires more hardware resources, both in Roon Core and in the network.
- The access and transfer speeds of the files stored in the network are lower than those of the local files.
- The speed of accessing and transferring the files stored in the network is dependent on the quality of the NAS, the quality of the network, as well as the degree of network load.
The above makes the possibility of sound interruptions or performance issues to be less in the case of local files.
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